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Thanks guys for your help! It is amazing how smart these puppies are, as Lucas will also grab as soon as we turn our back. He also sits in what my daughter calls "the drop zone", for he will lay down under the table between their chairs. As soon as my 4 year old moves, he is in there within seconds and gone!

No worries about using the crate as a time out place, as we have an area that we take him too. As for training, he is sooooo good at leave it and stay. I can leave a treat almost by his paw and he will leave it for at least 5 minutes until I say "okay" and then he grabs it. He just doesn't have any control at meal times and I can't say I blame him. Especially with 2 young kids who are constantly spilling etc.

The hard part with this is that nothing phases him. We got the pet corrector (makes a loud hissing noise) and he didn't even budge. (Shih Tzu is terrified of it however!) The water bottle he enjoyed, as he tries to catch the water in his mouth. My husband tried the mouse trap and again, didn't phase him, but I think the food with cayenne might do the trick!! Great suggestion Gwen! I wish we could do the baby gate idea, but our house is too open concept, so I think it is just going to be more and more training and making sure that the food is pushed back. Mind you, the other day he was reaching so far back, that his paws were going like gangbusters...it looked like he was playing the drums!
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we always fed Rose while we are eating dinner; she gets apples, cheese, baked potato etc. We have done that since the first day home, except she fell asleep with her head in the bowl. By now, rose is almost 8 mo old she knows when dinner time arrives and she sits between my and DH's chair at the table waiting for everyone to sit down.
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Some things that helped us were teaching Cookie a "place" command and practicing it often. During mealtime, once the plates hit the table, she puts herself on her mat and waits.

The other thing that helped is that my criteria for counter surfing is when Cookie as much as points her nose toward the counter, and that's what I correct or redirect with a leave-it. If you wait until they have paws up, then they may have a chance to get a big jackpot and you end up going back to square 1.
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Sheldon tried the jumping up at the counter. I used the shake can with the pennies and he stopped. Hasn't tried it again.Only needed to do it about 3 times. I have heard that you could place
/small carpets with prickly stubs on the floor and the discomfort of standing on them might do the trick and keep him away from the counter/ food.
Read this somewhere. You could give it a try.
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Thanks everyone!!

My goodness Claudia, that is such a cute picture!!! They grow so fast!!!

So for the last few days, I have just been putting him in another room with a baby gate. I'm finding that dinner is already so busy with having a 7 year old and 4 year old, that it isn't fair for Lucas, as he is so tempted with the kids basically spilling all the time. It is so much calmer not having to worry if he is going to jump etc. I have burned dinner a few times because I am trying to redirect Lucas, lol. So I think for now, this may have to be the way it is and then when the kids are not around, I keep working on redirecting him to his place.

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Thanks for this info everyone. I have 2 counter surfers, my Golden and my Lab/Pit, and so far we have only been able to try to manage things. Last night we forgot, and they got into the butter dish on the counter! I can't block off my kitchen either as my downstairs is open plan without doorways to gate off, nor do I have room for an ex-pen. I think I will try the can full of quarters first as they are not overly sound-sensitive. Neither is bothered by the taste of cayenne. I have already trained them not to beg, they have a good drop it, and a so-so leave it. Need to work on that too. Unfortunately they have gotten a lot of practice at counter surfing. Once the Thanksgiving turkey was stolen, and twice steak was stolen, once raw! :-(
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I teach my dogs from day one that the kitchen is off limits for safety reasons so I don't have a problem with counter surfing.
I used kikopups method to teach Bentley leave it so I can now set plates of food on the floor around him or on end tables ect and he won't bother them. It takes time and training but it's relatively easy to teach compared to some things.
This is her video...

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Ugh, so we have tried everything and nothing is working!! Hubby made these amazing apps to take to a party Saturday night and as we were getting ready, Lucas somehow got up and ate them. I still don't know how he did it, as they were at the farthest point of the counter. I don't know who wanted to hide first, me or the dog!?!? We have done the can, we did the pepper, we did the mouse traps, I have banged pots and pans and nothing. Since Saturday, I am now putting him in his crate anytime there is food in the kitchen, but then he barks all through our dinner etc. Soooo having a tough time with that right now!

Bentley's mom, that is awesome, thanks for sharing that! In training sessions, our trainer is able to do that with her dog and it is amazing to watch. Funny thing is, Lucas is actually pretty awesome with leave it. I can put a treat on his paw and he will leave it for a few minutes, but we are working on trying to take bigger distances etc. I hope we will get there!
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We have the same counter surfing problem with Finley. Its not just the kitchen or food though, he wants to take items he knows he can't have. He will do it in the bathroom and take the hairbrush. He always brings it to us to show us and then runs away, we know he just wants us to chase him and that's generally what happens. We try to be patient and get him to "drop it", he's much better for my bf than me with this but sometimes he has something dangerous or precious and we are forced to offer a treat to get him to drop it. I know this is bad because it seems like we are rewarding this behaviour. We are working on this everyday and have become more careful with what is left around. The funny thing is we can leave phones, remotes, etc on the coffee tables all day and he would never bother that.

Here are a couple of photos of his most dangerous steals: a full carton of eggs and a knife, both stolen off the counter while I was cooking. I needed to a treat to get these back before there was a disaster..


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We have the same counter surfing problem with Finley. Its not just the kitchen or food though, he wants to take items he knows he can't have. He will do it in the bathroom and take the hairbrush. He always brings it to us to show us and then runs away, we know he just wants us to chase him and that's generally what happens. We try to be patient and get him to "drop it", he's much better for my bf than me with this but sometimes he has something dangerous or precious and we are forced to offer a treat to get him to drop it. I know this is bad because it seems like we are rewarding this behaviour. We are working on this everyday and have become more careful with what is left around. The funny thing is we can leave phones, remotes, etc on the coffee tables all day and he would never bother that.

Here are a couple of photos of his most dangerous steals: a full carton of eggs and a knife, both stolen off the counter while I was cooking. I needed to a treat to get these back before there was a disaster..





You SHOULD be trading him for a treat, ( you are not rewarding the stealing you are rewarding him for dropping it) regardless what you need him to drop-- it could save his life. You want him to willingly give up items he has, it could save his life, and to do that you need to teach him that good things are going to happen when he does drop it. Start teaching him to When he is holding the toy, hold a treat in front of his nose and say 'drop it', when he does, give him the treat, and give the toy back, practice until he is readily dropping the toy on cue, then continue practicing with as many items as you can, so that when he does get something he REALLY can't have, he may just bring it to you to trade for a treat.


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