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I'm glad your wife has "seen the light." Cesar has a lot to account for... there are a lot of unhappy pooches in the world because their owners mimic his techniques, even though the show says "don't try this at home."

BTW we solved the issue you describe by only allowing it when we invite it. I say "hugs" and slap my stomach, and the dog can jump up and hug us. Both our Goldens do this now but not when we don't invite it.
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I've gotta say, "The Dog Whisperer" is a guilty pleasure, but mostly because I enjoy watching different dog breeds, and seeing different dog behaviors. It seems like he subscribes to some version of dominance theory, which seems to me to be complete rubbish.

I was talking to someone this weekend who was talking about how his father used to be a very effective dog trainer (circa 1940s or 1950s), but he was awfully tough (and mean) on the dogs, and it was just more evidence to me that there are lots of ways to get dogs to do what you want them to do, but I'd rather get my dogs to do what I want them to do while still respecting them and treating them with dignity.


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Caesar is a double edged sword. On one hand he brought dogs back into popular culture and made people realize that they needed to exercise their animals. On the other hand he began with very confrontational methods which I've noticed he's softened significantly as he became a better dog trainer.
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I hope you can reverse the damage done and spark his joyful spirit again. Golden Retrievers are not suited to the dominance methods at all, and you are right it can break their spirit.

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Buddy is a reformed jumper. He does slowly raise up to hug myself, brother, and parenty- Only us. He will just sigh and look at you then smile and repeat a few times.

I do what I like and like what I do. Yorkies- Cozy (4/1/06), Roxy & Zoey (2/11/08), Lucy (4/6/09); Golden- Buddy (4/13/09- Rescued 12/11) Maine Coon cats- Mika (1998) and Tallulah (2000)
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I wish i could break my dog spirit from jumping on people, he is two and a half, i think he jumps,because he gets nervous,or scared, i have not been able to do it.

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I like Ceaser. Different strokes for different dogs so to speak. However most the time he needs to train the owners (as most trainers do) on how to train their specific dogs.

I don't tolerate the jumping. Although Goldens are just being playful they are big and could easily knock someone off their feet and danger them.

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He has a line...something like "I rehabilitate dogs and train people." I think that, in the abstract, is very good. Getting across to people that it's not only the dogs that need training is step number one.

But like I mentioned earlier, there are lots of ways to get a dog to obey you. Choosing reasonable methods that respect the animal's dignity is the least we owe them.


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