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Sunrise · #11 (**permalink**) 01-02-2013, 12:46 PM

I use Wait for any release where my dog will be coming to me (recall, walking by) or a general release where they do not need to remain in heel position; I use wait for things like doors, food etc

Stay is formal. They will not move from their position, no dancing paws etc. I will formally return to them (by circling behind them and stopping in heel position) and release from heel position. On release they can break position but need to stay in heel position until their leash is on and they hear "let's go", "free" etc.

Loisiana · #12 (**permalink**) 01-02-2013, 01:21 PM

Some people will use stay when they will go back to release, and wait when you are going to call the dog. It sounds like this is what your instructor was thinking.

Other people use wait when they dent want their dogs to rush through a door, but don't expect them to hold a certain position until released either.

I dont use stay or wait. If I want my dog to sit, I'll tell him sit, and he should stay there until released.

OutWest · #13 (**permalink**) 01-02-2013, 01:23 PM

I've wondered this, too. I don't think it matters at all, it's all in how you use it and consistency. I've started using "wait" for a brief wait (such as at the door so I can enter first) and "stay" to indicate a longer wait.

fostermom · #14 (**permalink**) 01-02-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rob1

I remember being told in an obedience class to use 'Stay' if you're going to come back to them to release them. 'Wait' means you'll release from a distance. It wasn't put forward as something critical- but as something that might be useful later, particularly if you go on to compete.

I also don't use the word 'heel', because mostly I'm just asking for a good loose leash walk next to me. So for that, I say 'with me'. That way 'heel' is reserved for something more specific and precise. I think it's the same basic logic.

That said- a real trainer could likely do a much better job of explaining why you might want the different commands. I just know it was suggested it might be useful in future training.

This is exactly how I use Wait and Stay. Wait means stop where you are until I release you from wherever I am. Stay means don't move until I come back and release you.

I also almost never use heel, instead I use a "by me" command so I can hike with all three of mine off-leash and have them stay close to me when I need them nearby (usually for safety reasons).

**inge** · #15 (**permalink**) 01-02-2013, 03:19 PM

I was told by Liza's trainer that 'stay' means: stay put until I come back for you and formally give the release word. 'Wait' is : stay focused on me until I give the release, and then come to where I am.

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