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The training is going, but I'm behind on the reporting. Let's see:

We are supposed to work on a chain of 10 commands for obedience class. Since Casper seems to like to heel in class, we're going to do a short heeling sequence. A couple of stops, a couple of turns, and a "Call front finish left halt."

We started a tricks class. For the first week, we are supposed to work on one shaping trick and one lured trick. For shaping, I picked push the ball around. He's got that one confused with push the ball down the stairs. I want him to push the ball around while he's standing, but he's used to laying at the top of the stairs and pushing the ball down the stairs. For luring, I'm teaching him Bow. It's going well.

Meanwhile, there are a bunch of other things I'm trying to remember to practice. Too many! Sit/Stay, Down/Stay, Come, Leave It, Spin, Back. I'm also working on making sure he knows both the hand signal and the verbal command.

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Training Logs Feb 10-16 2013

Training yesterday morning - nugget has NO IDEA what I'm looking for on the glove exercise or go outs he is starting to frustrate me especially with go outs. He looks confused even at 7-8 feet away from target and unless on leash and basically run to it he won't move . When we reach target he will eat the treat on the wall. Gloves same thing he always go for one but rarely is it the right one even at very close distance he still goes to what ever one he wants too , he always gets one and sometimes tries to bring two back. Rest of things for novice exercises and the things in open I am trying to teach him went well.


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Nugget's Dad - it's not really my place to say anything since you've done all this before and I'm just learning...

But one thing I was thinking about that helped with my Jacks was really cracking down on the impulse control even before we got to the level in training that we are at right now.

I used things that definitely motivated him - toys and treats. Even working in our basement, putting 1-4 toys out around us and directing him to retrieve specific toys - even when there was a high value toy (his favorite ones) out there. It's helped in that while doing the glove exercise at class for the first time, my only real concern or "must work on this" was doing a clean pivot and remembering that once you stop moving your feet you can't readjust yourself. Well that and getting him to just retrieve the glove without shaking it around. This went into the dumbbell retrieves as well, where we are basically doing a directed retrieve where the dog is looking at two dumbbells and must retrieve the correct one.

Using the toys and training in an informal way also took a lot of stress out of the equation for the dog - which was huge for Jacks who "stresses up" and tries his hardest when I'm teaching him anything new.

Adele also has had us set out multiple targets (paper plates or her rubber circles) and load them with a treat. This trains the directed send and impulse control well before you add the retrieve to the equation. We'd have 2 circles out there and start off only loading the one. She suggested adding a treat to the other when the dog isn't looking, but that was NEVER going to happen with Jacks who moves faster than the speed of lightning when food is involved. So I just would send him to a treat and call him to come to a treat in hand before he had a chance to break for the other treat. Again this went into training the directed retrieves before the gloves got involved.

The go-outs too, I was having a problem with Jacks not understand the go-out exercise even with a treat out there, my instructor had me stand practically a foot away from the target with Jacks and either load it or give him a job to do and gradually backing up a foot at a time.

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I am getting sick of winter weather, and want to go outside to train so bad.

I have been very sick with "the fever", so I have started training Rivet again, to help me with the pain. I know I will eventually be cured, but there is someone I want to move in with me very bad, so that makes it very hard.



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How is his marking? If you put 4-8 plates out in a circle and stand in the center of the circle, pivot, have him mark & send to a treat does he understand this? Does Nugget understand the marking into a corner involved with gloves 1 & 3? Marking to the center for Go Outs and Glove #2?

The pressure of the gating sometimes is an issue. Sometimes the dog does not understand that leaving heel position is acceptable and needs to be taught.


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Training yesterday morning - nugget has NO IDEA what I'm looking for on the glove exercise or go outs he is starting to frustrate me especially with go outs. He looks confused even at 7-8 feet away from target and unless on leash and basically run to it he won't move . When we reach target he will eat the treat on the wall. Gloves same thing he always go for one but rarely is it the right one even at very close distance he still goes to what ever one he wants too , he always gets one and sometimes tries to bring two back. Rest of things for novice exercises and the things in open I am trying to teach him went well.


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Training Logs Feb 10-16 2013

Kate and Sunrise THANK YOU for your suggestions please don't ever think that because I've done this before doesn't mean I know everything about training a dog . I DON'T while its true my last 3 goldens have earned a utility degree and even my Nova an otch they where all different and all had different problems. My trouble is none ever presented the problems I have with Nugget in utility work , his other exercise are going pretty well and I just am a little frustrated but I'm going to start over and I'm going to incorporate your ways which in all honesty wasn't the way I learned to teach these exercises. I try to learn all I can by watching and taking advice from others and anytime you think a suggestion might be helpful please give it to me I DO APPRECIATE IT. Thanks again

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We're getting sick of the snow too. Zoe's outdoor time is spent mostly figuring out how to take care of her business in snow at least up to her arm pits.

I've decided that even though she may not have her CD she has become a good "companion dog." The other day we were out after it had rained on top of the snow. I managed to slip and fall in the slop in the driveway. While I was trying to figure out if I could get up and whether she was going to take off for the street, she hovered over me licking my face. I could just feel her encouraging me to get myself together and get up which I managed to do. She really is a good girl.


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^ And that ultimately is what all of these classes and training sessions are all about. The titles don't mean much, but you have a wonderful dog keeping you company at home.

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We had our final training session (indoor) before graduation tomorrow night. Our success depends on the stays. It's that simple. The other exercises won't be flawless, but most likely adequate to get us through it. I tend to put too much pressure on myself, so I'm just going to try to relax and have fun!

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Obedience morning all inside

Towhee: Heeling, recall, front & finishes with the box, down followed by sit stays while I folded laundry. Very eager to be back working; a bit forgy but overall nice

Faelan: Signals (awesome), fronts & finishes with the box (I need to make him a larger one but he tries to fit in it). His heeling was ramped up so I had to spend time on forward, halts.

Casey: Heeling, signals, front & finishes. He was great

Brady: Sits, stands, downs, wait or stay with my varying distance, turning & rewarding, turning and calling, worked up to about 30 feet. Also worked 1 step forward in heel position. He is learning down and sit at my side now as well as from the front.

Overall a happy, upbeat session with all of them. I need to start training the obedience more often and this week is a good start LOL


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