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Old 06-09-2011, 05:56 PM
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I think it would be very difficult to make a choice at 3 weeks. You could see differences in colour and size, but little more.
Because I knew the breeder, I did see the litter our pup comes from at 3 weeks, and choice was easy as there were only three bitches in the litter, one large pale coloured pup, and two similar sized pups - one of which was a bit darker shaded gold than the other. I said I would like to see them again later to choose, but I thought to myself that I liked the look of the smaller darker pup. The breeder very kindly said I could have first choice anyway and I went back at nearly 6 weeks of age to choose. We pick her up on Saturday, when she is 8 weeks and I expect she will look different again.
The important things are to ensure that the health checks are done, the parents are good stock and are what you would like your own dog to be. The breeder should be knowledgible and ethical - you must trust he/him - and the pups should look healthy (well fed, wormed, etc) and be in a clean environment (in a home in preference to a kennel). The pup should also be purchased subject to a vet check. You should not expect to take your pup home until it is 8 weeks old.
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The person I got Kelly from does not let anyone near the babies until they have their first round of vaccines. Is it safe to visit puppies at 3 weeks old? Or my breeder is just a control freak?
I am wondering how the wolves or for that matter any wild animals survive without vaccination?
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Old 06-09-2011, 06:33 PM
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IMO, you can't tell much about a 3 week old pup... 5-6 weeks, you start to see personalities. As far as health concerns puppies are susceptible to things like herpesvirus infection 3 weeks prior to birth and 3 weeks after. When in utero, it can kill them or cause them to be stillborn. And the reason it is dangerous after birth is that newborn pups cannot thermoregulate, so they cannot mount fevers to fight infection....
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today i am going to look at 3 week old puppies. should i pick one out now?
there are 4 males left and really want a male.

i already have a 3 year old golden and want another.
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how do i determine what his nose, hair etc will be at 3 weeks.
would i be able to tell?

what should i do
There is nothing wrong to see, touch, pet and play with young puppies but I don't think it's possible to determine the personality and temperament at that age. And those are way more important than color of the nose and coat. That is why most reputable breeders won't let to pick a puppy until 6-7 weeks. If your breeder forces you to make selection now - it's a red flag. If she wants you just to visit and see the pups, I won't think twice - go ahead ! But you'll be amazed how much they will change in 3-4 weeks.
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IMO, you can't tell much about a 3 week old pup... 5-6 weeks, you start to see personalities. As far as health concerns puppies are susceptible to things like herpesvirus infection 3 weeks prior to birth and 3 weeks after. When in utero, it can kill them or cause them to be stillborn. And the reason it is dangerous after birth is that newborn pups cannot thermoregulate, so they cannot mount fevers to fight infection....
This is very old concept, which is disproved already. The immune system of the young puppies is very strong and will fight virtually all viruses. And those puppis that caught the infection most likely will have the health issues in a future, sorry nobody canceled yet the natural selection ...
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Our breeder picked our puppy for us, and that worked perfectly. He knew us and knew what we were looking for in our puppy. They knew the puppies WAY better than we ever could. I drove them crazy and tried to pick favorites from an early stage, but I knew it was up to them. Eventually, they gave us a choice between 2 puppies, but I told them I wanted them to decide for us. They picked perfectly (as they did with Sophie as well) and we couldn't be happier.
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Breeders picked out my last two. Worked out very,very well. So far got exactly what I asked for. Both at 8 weeks.
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I didn't see or even know about my pup until she was 9 wks old. I kinda decided at the last minute to check out some puppies. My husband and I really like golden retrievers so I went to visit 2 different breeders. Zoey's breeder was my last stop. It was hard to pick at first because I had 6 pups to choose from. I wanted the puppy to pick me and that is exactly what Zoey did. She was the puppy that stayed at my side and wanted me even when her brothers and sisters wondered off. She is still always at my side to this day. She is a mommy's baby.

I agree you shouldn't pick until they are older. It's best to pick a pup according to their personality, to see which one will fit with your family the best. I saw a couple of pups that I ruled out right away because of their personalities. I didn't like how rough they got and the dominate nature. At 3 wks old you will have no idea what they will be like.
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If you are selecting a puppy for showing or breeding... then by all means it makes a difference.

But if you are selecting a companion dog you often make the decision based on some invisible intangible element of attraction. Assuming that you are looking at a healthy litter, I don't believe there are any wrong choices.

4 years ago we bred our Natasha. So we were able to watch the development of the six puppies from day one. No outsiders were invited or allowed to visit until the pups were 5 weeks old. Our rational was twofold: no need to chance anyone bringing in some infection that may spread through the litter and 'intruders' would possibly distress Natasha. By six weeks old each puppy demonstrated a distinct and unique personality.. (generally speaking, the smaller puppies tending to be feistier and the larger pups more laid back.) No one puppy was better than any of the others... they were simply different.

As the breeder, I didn't get my first choice... or my second or third choice. We kept the puppy that was left, we called him Bob. And, it turned out that he was exactly what we wanted. Or more accurately, we love Bob just as he is.

Then, last year one of the adopting families found it necessary to rehome their puppy and one of our puppies came back to us. Casey's coat, her size, the shape of her head, her personality... all different from Bob And it turns out that we love Casey as much as the other two.

Bottom line, in my opinion, if you feel an affinity to a particular pup feel free to choose now. If you are unsure about which one then leave it up to the breeder or fate. In either case it is the combination of genetics and environment that will untimately shape the personality of your dog.

As far as the nose and hair... you really can't tell at 3 weeks or for that matter at 5 or 8 weeks. You look at the parents assume the puppies will inherit some or most of the traits you desire and hope for the best.
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Discoverer, Would you like me to quote from my endocrinology textbook or is it ok if I paraphrase? "Canine herpesvirus is an acute fatal disease in neonatal pups..." It can result in mummification if the bitch is infected early in pregnancy, abortion if infected mid pregnancy, and premature still births if infected later in pregnancy. Not making this up... it is here in black and white. I watched a friend of mine who worked in a kennel have 3 litters of still births/neonatal deaths... to herpes... I don't take any chances.
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