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Brindle coat on puppy?

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We recently got our girl (9 weeks) and were told she was purebred Golden Retriever, and she certainly looks like she has Golden in her - but after reading the standards we feel she is a mix- She has white paws, chest and slightly brindle coat. I realize the white in her isn't going anywhere, but is it possible for puppies to have brindling in their coats? Is it something that will fade as she gets older? Plus she has very light almost green eyes...
Has anyone heard of an Italian Golden Retriever?
Any thoughts appreciated!
Emily
 

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#2 ·
She's a lovely puppy, but there are a number of things about her that indicate she's probably not a full Golden (coat, color, pigment, eyes, head, ears, etc.). White mismarks are very possible on a GR, most commonly on the feet, chest, and head, but I've never heard of a brindle coat nor the brownish tint to your pup.

There's also no such thing as an Italian GR, unless you mean a GR who lives in Italy. ;)

You were definitely lied to by the person who sold you the dog. Did this person claim AKC affiliation or any other kind of membership or affiliation with a purebred dog group or a Golden Retriever club?

Obviously, you won't give up your dog now that you have her, but you may be entitled to get some or all of your money back from this person, and at the very least they should be reported to whatever organizations they claim to be a member of. You can also post the breeder's kennel name here so others can find it and avoid being defrauded like you were.
 
#4 ·
She is absolutely adorable, but I also agree with Tippy. If you were charged a price for a purebred golden retriever, I think you need to pursue getting some of your purchase price back.
I'm sure you will love her just the way she is. Welcome to the forum!
 
#5 ·
I couldn't agree more with the above posts. She's so darn cute and I hope that you'll love her no matter what, but I don't even think she's a golden mix. Did you receive AKC paperwork with the puppy? If so, I'd report them to the AKC so you might be able to get some $ back.
 
#8 ·
Wow....The eyes......she's going to be a great addition to your family.
Just for fun do one of those Canine Heritage dna tests....costs about 70$ but it would be interesting to see the results and also good info if this ever goes to court.
And yes, I'd stomp on this "breeder" real hard.

Oh, and if the "breeder" told you she was an Italian Golden Retriever......ask them if they've ever heard of the Brooklyn Bridge being for sale.....
 
#9 ·
There is a breed of spaniel called an italian... something. I can't remember the name of it but a man in my neighbourhood has one but she looks almost like she could be part of that. I'll try to find a pic and the breed name haha. Shes adorable though! :D
 
#12 ·
There are Italian Spinones and Italian Greyhounds and a few others (not sure if all of them are AKC recognized—Bracco, Segugio, Volpino, etc.). And there are other breeds that probably originated in Italy but don't have Italian in the common name (Neapolitan Mastiff, for one).
 
#10 ·
Agree with everything said above and would follow up with the person who sold you this pup as a pure bred golden. However, she is super cute and your girls seem to love her. I also love the pic of her cuddling up with your boxer. They look like best friends already.
 
#11 ·
She's adorable but not a Golden Retriever. It would be fun to find out her breed. I wish when we got our "purebred Huskey" that these DNA tests were available. She turned out to be the greatest dog even if she was a mix.
 
#13 ·
I'm not sure if those DNA tests are as accurate as they claim to be (they may be, but dog genetics are pretty darn complicated since we don't know all the history of many of the common breeds). Nonetheless, they're definitely better than eyeballing the dog, since mixing breeds can bring out characteristics that aren't seen in either breed and/or suppress characteristics that are found in both.
 
#15 ·
She reminds me of a Scotia Duck trolling retriever -google it- she definatly looks like she's got some of that in her. I would also look into the colouring of the parents. I'm assuming you didn't get to meet the parents? I would for sure look into this more. If she isn't 100% but is being claimed as one you definitely are entitled to some of you money back.

What exactly did you get with the puppy? Clearances or anything?

You know the more I look at it the more I think she has/is a scotia retriever they have the white paws too!
 
#17 ·
I think the brindle pattern is genetic... so one of the parents has to carry the gene. So while the puppy might have golden in her, one of the parents probably wasn't a golden.

She's adorable though. Her eyes remind me of the brittany across the street from us when I was much younger. :)
 
#18 ·
Chesapeakes can have brindling and light eyes as well. She reminds me a bit of a friend's just with longer softer fur! The other notion that popped to mind that has brindling and light eyes was a Catahoula.
 
#22 ·
In Aussies, the red merle pattern is often associated with green eyes.

I'm wondering if Italian Golden is not a new made-up breed? Like the Arctic White Goldens I ran across that are Samoyed mixed with very pale ("white") Goldens.

I wish I could remember the kennel that produced the green eyed Goldens-they were very proud of this. Their name was very similar to that of a reputable kennel too. Lakeside, Lakeview, something like that?
 
#24 ·
In order for your pup to have brindle markings, one parent would have had to be brindle themselves, which would be hard to miss. I'd be going back to the breeder to complain and get some money back! She's cute though!
 
#26 ·
She is really adorable, but I actually don't see any Golden Retriever in her at all. I think she looks much more like a Nova Scotia Duck Toller. I definitely agree with reporting the person who sold her to you as they obviously lied by telling you that she is a purebred Golden. You are entitled to get most if not all of your money back.
 
#29 · (Edited)
My first impression was Chesapeake Bay Retriever because of her eyes, liver color nose, and the base color of her coat. But I have no idea where the brindle coat would have come from. Was the person you got her from selling them with AKC registration?

These are Chessie puppies. (2nd pic from brushwaters.com)
 
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