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Old 01-24-2010, 10:08 PM
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What age to start joint support for puppies?

I like to plan ahead and I'm thinking of the long-term health of our future puppy. I was just curious at what age you started supplements for joint health with your puppy, and what brand do you use?

Casey has had good results with Glycoflex III and fish oil, so I have been considering Glycoflex I and fish oil for the youngster. Does anyone have any other recommendations?

My vet recommended Dasequin if I didn't want to do Glycoflex as it is a touch cheaper. I plan to discuss it with my breeder, too, but always appreciate the knowledge and variety of experiences here.

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My breeder, as part of her puppy packet, states that puppy buyers feed their pups three times a day between the ages of 8 and 10 weeks--and at each of those meals, one 250 mg tablet of glycoflex classic is to be included.

At 11 weeks, through 13 weeks of age, my breeder wants two 250 mg tablets in the AM feeding, and 1 250 mg tablet in the pm feeding. At 11 weeks of age is the age the breeder is expecting the pup to be fed twice a day.

At 14 weeks of age, through 2 years of age, my breeder wants 500 mg glycoflex in the AM, and 500 mg glycoflex in the PM.

After 2 years of age, 500 mg of glycoflex one time a day in either meal. Hope this helps. This is from the online puppy packet from my breeder.
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I've never had a vet or a breeder yet who recommended giving joint supplements to puppies. Feeding a good quality food and limiting exercise as appropriate for the age probably is more helpful. It strikes me somewhat odd to do it - we certainly don't give pre-schoolers joint supplements in hopes of warding off developing arthritis in old age. That said, I've given a salmon oil capsule to puppies 6 months and older just to help improve coat and skin.

Actually, I would think that giving joint supplements at such a young age might reduce their effectiveness in later age since the body would be so used to them already.
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I started my Quiz on supplements at 4 months old. I use K9 Liquid Health's glucosamine product. That young was as a preventative per my holistic vet. He's a performance dog (agility, obedience, field, dock jumping, etc.) and I wanted to be sure I was doing everything possible to keep him healthy and sound.
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My vet recommends them right away and has for nearly the last decade. She cited studies showing the importance of medium to large breeds and the benefits of them even 8 to 10 years ago. (of course at this point I don't remember exactly what the benefits are.) My 8 year old, who is harder on his body than any dog I know and is active in agility and field work is in great shape for his age and how hard he is on himself. There is probably no way to tell if that is due to genetics or the fact he has been on supplements since he was a pup.

My 19 month old's breeder also recommended supplements from the day we brought him home.
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Thanks!!! All of this was incredibly helpful. I'm going to also look into the k9 Liquid Health and compare it to Glycoflex.

RappWizard- I really like that breakdown of dosage/age. I'm going to definitely keep that information.

My Bentley- You make a good point, we just don't know if they help or it's genetics, but I'd like to err on the side of caution. I plan on feeding a quality kibble and restrict/monitor types of activity in some cases for growth plates. Dogs only live 1/10 our lifespan, so in my opinion it seems reasonable to me to give a dog supplements, not a toddler. Is there a difference between "salmon oil" and "fish oil?" I know that fish oil is good for skin and coat, but does salmon oil have more of an effect on this that plain fish oil?
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Also, what is the 'real' difference between Glycoflex Classic and Glycoflex I? I have looked at both and am not entirely sure. Both say that they're ok for puppies. Any ideas?
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Thanks!!! All of this was incredibly helpful. I'm going to also look into the k9 Liquid Health and compare it to Glycoflex.

RappWizard- I really like that breakdown of dosage/age. I'm going to definitely keep that information.

My Bentley- You make a good point, we just don't know if they help or it's genetics, but I'd like to err on the side of caution. I plan on feeding a quality kibble and restrict/monitor types of activity in some cases for growth plates. Dogs only live 1/10 our lifespan, so in my opinion it seems reasonable to me to give a dog supplements, not a toddler. Is there a difference between "salmon oil" and "fish oil?" I know that fish oil is good for skin and coat, but does salmon oil have more of an effect on this that plain fish oil?


The sourcing and quality control of the oil is probably more important than salmon versus fish oil. I use a human grade Norwegian salmon oil, but many salmon oils may be from farmed salmon which is not so great. Buying human grade and knowing the company is what I go by.
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I started my Quiz on supplements at 4 months old. I use K9 Liquid Health's glucosamine product. That young was as a preventative per my holistic vet. He's a performance dog (agility, obedience, field, dock jumping, etc.) and I wanted to be sure I was doing everything possible to keep him healthy and sound.
While I truly have no argument that there is any harm in giving glucosamine supplements to puppies, I've never come across any independent (not written by a company that sells a product) information citing a correlation between giving glucosamine supplements when young and preventing arthritis - be it in humans or canines. I realize that it can definitely provide comfort and better functioning for dogs with joint problems.
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I have never used joint supplementation in any of my young dogs or puppies. Limit growth, limit exercise, feed good quality food. You might also enjoy reading Rhonda Hovan's slow growth plan.
http://www.goldenretriever.lv/rhonda_slow_grow.htm
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