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Libby the Landshark

Hi there! Greetings from Libby the Landshark and her mom Sonja. As I sit here with some blood dripping from my wrist from our last play session, quietly praying she will stay chill while I write my post, and holding my chewed up nightlight in my hand (I was wondering where that went?), I figured I would make my intros and join the forum.

Libby is 13 weeks old. She's a cutie and she learned sit, down and shake in one day. She is having trouble with leave it, stay and drop it. She loves her pen. She sleeps through the night most nights till about 5:30. she is a good dog.

The thing is, I rescued a kitten shortly before Libby, who is now going on four months and Libby MUST CHEW KITTEN. MUST CHEW AND DRAG KITTEN. MUST SHAKE KITTEN if her people do not see. Must chew Kitten Every second of Every day. We obviously sub out toys, do time outs in her pen which she loves, distract with treats that turn in to training sessions. We are working on "Leave it" which she does for about 3 seconds. We tug play. We can't run her yet because her shots are not done. The kitten really does not seem to mind much and in fact, loves to leap on her head and play too. But does complain when Libby gets her throat. It just sometimes seems rough and we expect Libby to be about 80 + pounds. All the training info I read really barely references pup/kitten scenarios. We also have a ten year old who continually squeals when she thinks it gets rough and it's just all around no fun for us. Granted the kiddo is not around for 70 % of this but it just is not fun.

A little background on me. I lost the fur child love of my life this summer, about 9 days before my wedding. My nearly 16 year old Yogibear, a mixed breed that looked golden , but was mixed if you knew him, a herding dog, I found him at maybe 5 weeks old in a box. Smart as they get. Gorgeous, red boy with a great coat. He self poddy trained the day I brought him home. That dog went up the Empire State building with me, traveled through Oregon, traipsed through Beverly Hills, skied Utah mountains. He understood English fluently I am pretty sure. He was a bit of a nipper with strangers who moved quickly, and definitely mommy based, stubborn and clingy but from my point of view, he was my soul mate. He went to a crap vet in Maryland who said he was "just old" when I knew something was wrong. a month later, in California, he collapsed from a splenic mass - which I treated successfully with yunnan baiyao (HIGHLY RECOMMEND TO HAVE THIS MIRACLE ON HAND) and took him to the vet where he was diagnosed with kidney disease to boot which led to pancreatitis as he was not eating so before we knew, I gave him fatty foods. Well, after a long time researching every natural and western med possible, with him taking all kinds of supplements and phosph. and home cooked meals and a stroller and getting regular fluids a couple times a day, he finally had enough one day before his 16th Birthday and told me so. I never thought I would have another dog. But i guess the animal love runs deep.

I know Libby is not Yogi and I definitely do not expect her to be. She is very sweet, and these days, it is not just a girl and her dog, it is a busy family and their dog and cat. I am struggling however because even though I give her a LOT of time, she mouths with her sharp teeth constantly. My entire family is covered with bite marks. and the yelp / ignore trick has not worked.

I understand dogs. I do, and I know she is a little baby and she is sweet and I know we will all grow into each other, and it will be a lot easier once we can walk her but it is hard. She is not too bad about poddy training when it is just me at home, she rarely has accidents, but when the family is home, inevitably she goes, and unfortunately, now the kitten does too. we blocked off the bathroom with a baby gate the cat can get through (as Libby likes to eat kitten poo ) but it is like a bunch of monkeys throwing poo around here some mornings and I do everything right - she goes out every 30 minutes, etc. we have a house with a fenced yard too. So, I guess there is not much to be done at this point, she is a puppy, the teeth will fall out, we'll take her to puppy school at 16ish weeks, and keep working with her rambunctious ways, and we do love her. But pup/kitten advice would be great. and I am on here mostly to learn about the growing phases of true golden puppies because she is a LOT more difficult than my Yogi was. She isn't a cuddler, at least not yet and she just will not stop biting. However, I have noticed that as much of a bull as she is at home, she is terrified of other dogs, which as soon as her shots are done, we will work on. I have only gone to introduce her to two adult dogs with all their shots and she ran right in both times and would not move, and they were goldens. and she flies in the house anytime she hears a bark too. so we will see when she can go out and play. There is a 4 month golden girl across the street waiting for her to be cleared for play.

oh the other thing is our cat is now indoor/outdoor which makes me sad. we lives by mountains and coyotes but our cat will not stay in when libby is out. so, c'est la vie. I can just pray - kitten is good too and comes when called. So anyhow, we have a full house and would love kid/pup and kitten /pup biting/mouthing advice. Thanks! :-) Sonja
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I have little kids and would tell them to disengage and walk away when the puppy started biting, or that they needed to offer a toy instead of body parts. When he was done teething, and it still hadn't stopped, I walked around with spearmint flavored binaca in my pocket. If he used his teeth, I sprayed whatever body part or clothing item he was biting and said "no teeth." He hated the scent, and backed off immediately. He tried to investigate their hands a couple of times, but I don't know that he ever actually tasted it. It took less than a week for him to stop mouthing them. I guess you could use bitter apple, but I haven't used that since I had a dog that licked that stuff up like it was candy. (I don't know if you should spray it on kids, either...)
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thank you. I am a nut about plastics though. I will check it out - I always use pvc free stuff. That may help though, thank you - i bet it smells pretty good! perhaps I should bathe the kitty in it too. ( I am jesting, I would never)
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I remember hearing that dogs don't like the smell of lemon, maybe try that.
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Make sure to get a tall cat tree if you have room! The kitten will head for higher ground. My kitting liked to play chase, of course it was more fun when my pup couldn't get on the bed! Kitties have claws and will use them if needed. One good scratch will establish boundaries with the puppy. But NO SHAKING OF THE KITTEN!
Sounds like they will be great friends soon. When I first brought home my pup I was sure she was going to terrorize the poor kitties... then realized the cats were starting all the chaos. They love to play with her! She is now 14 months and gets the kitty by the nap of the neck.. cat just lays there? and swishes the cat around like a floor mop. I had to be careful, my cats are declawed!
Just keep everyone safe during the land shark phase and give the kitten a safe place to be if it gets too crazy. Nothing so funny as a golden puppy trying to climb a cat tree :-)

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