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4 Month Old Puppy with Reoccurring Diarrhea

So about two weeks I took him out like normal and he just had diarrhea. Afterward he acted normal and played around. The next morning I woke up to find an accident in his crate, which he never does, so obviously he feels bad. By that night things were back to normal solid poops.

Now on Monday evening of last week he started whining like he really needed to go out, so we go out and he has A LOT of diarrhea. He does it another time before bed. Again, he acts pretty normal before bed. I wake up on Tuesday to another accident. He continued having it all morning. I didn't feed him that morning because he was sick.
I made a vet appointment for that afternoon to see if it was a parasite or something and got a sample ready. Then at about noon he started vomiting too. It started as dry heaving and then just yellow liquid. The vomit only happened a few times within about 30 minutes He was very lethargic.

Of course, when we go to the vet he acts normal again. The vet said nothing was wrong. They checked the fecal sample, felt his stomach. No issues. They gave him a nausea shot and sent me home with a diagel syringe and a couple cans of good GI wet food.

I had been mixing the wet food with his dry food the past couple days and he had normal bowel movements for Wednesday and Thursday.

Well, Friday he started to have diarrhea again. I am worried something is wrong, but I have no idea what. Any ideas? What can I do to help?

He is by my side pretty much 24/7, so I am almost positive he hasn't eaten anything weird (other than like dust or something like that)

Well, Saturday morning, I was again woken up at 3am by a terrible smell and a dirty, upset pup. Will be calling the vet again at 8am. Not really sure what to do. Tired of sleepless nights, cleaning, and him being sick with no end in sight. Think I'm going a bit crazy

Should i throw out his dog food? Get new food of the same kind? Get a new brand entirely? He has been eating the same stuff since I got him at 9 weeks. No issues until almost two weeks ago. Not sure what changes to make.

I took another fecal sample in and it came back negative for parasites again. At the vet I bought some more wet GI food and a daily synbiotic supplement, a powder I sprinkle on his food. The vet told me to combine the wet food with his normal kibble, which I had been doing anyway. I feel like those are not helping because we are on the same pattern. Really bad diarrhea for one day, then normal for two days, then bad again. I'm really worried and frustrated. Should I go see a different vet? Switch food?

His kibble: Wetlands Canine® Formula with Roasted Fowl - Taste of the Wild Pet FoodTaste of the Wild Pet Food

Daily supplement: https://www.amazon.com/BEEK-Synacore...pport+for+dogs


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Welcome to the forum! Your pup is beautiful.
It sounds like it may be time for a second opinion. Isn't it frustrating when a puppy is really sick overnight, but acts like nothing's wrong when you get to the vets? I hope he's better soon
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Welcome to the forum! Your pup is beautiful.
It sounds like it may be time for a second opinion. Isn't it frustrating when a puppy is really sick overnight, but acts like nothing's wrong when you get to the vets? I hope he's better soon
Thank you! It is very frustrating! I am wondering if it is some kind of allergy to his kibble? Although everything was fine until two weeks ago.
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So about two weeks I took him out like normal and he just had diarrhea. Afterward he acted normal and played around. The next morning I woke up to find an accident in his crate, which he never does, so obviously he feels bad. By that night things were back to normal solid poops.

Now on Monday evening of last week he started whining like he really needed to go out, so we go out and he has A LOT of diarrhea. He does it another time before bed. Again, he acts pretty normal before bed. I wake up on Tuesday to another accident. He continued having it all morning. I didn't feed him that morning because he was sick.
I made a vet appointment for that afternoon to see if it was a parasite or something and got a sample ready. Then at about noon he started vomiting too. It started as dry heaving and then just yellow liquid. The vomit only happened a few times within about 30 minutes He was very lethargic.

Of course, when we go to the vet he acts normal again. The vet said nothing was wrong. They checked the fecal sample, felt his stomach. No issues. They gave him a nausea shot and sent me home with a diagel syringe and a couple cans of good GI wet food.

I had been mixing the wet food with his dry food the past couple days and he had normal bowel movements for Wednesday and Thursday.

Well, Friday he started to have diarrhea again. I am worried something is wrong, but I have no idea what. Any ideas? What can I do to help?

He is by my side pretty much 24/7, so I am almost positive he hasn't eaten anything weird (other than like dust or something like that)

Well, Saturday morning, I was again woken up at 3am by a terrible smell and a dirty, upset pup. Will be calling the vet again at 8am. Not really sure what to do. Tired of sleepless nights, cleaning, and him being sick with no end in sight. Think I'm going a bit crazy

Should i throw out his dog food? Get new food of the same kind? Get a new brand entirely? He has been eating the same stuff since I got him at 9 weeks. No issues until almost two weeks ago. Not sure what changes to make.

I took another fecal sample in and it came back negative for parasites again. At the vet I bought some more wet GI food and a daily synbiotic supplement, a powder I sprinkle on his food. The vet told me to combine the wet food with his normal kibble, which I had been doing anyway. I feel like those are not helping because we are on the same pattern. Really bad diarrhea for one day, then normal for two days, then bad again. I'm really worried and frustrated. Should I go see a different vet? Switch food?

His kibble: Wetlands Canine® Formula with Roasted Fowl - Taste of the Wild Pet FoodTaste of the Wild Pet Food

Daily supplement: https://www.amazon.com/BEEK-Synacore...pport+for+dogs


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Your Puppy is absolutely beautiful!! I would take another stool sample and go back to the same vet or another vet.
I know that puppies can dehydrate quickly. I think some parasites are hard to detect.

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My own (admittedly limited) experience w TOTW is with boarding dogs. I have never seen a good poop on it - usually they are somewhat floppy on good days, at least in the dogs that I have boarded who eat TOTW.
I would say swap his food. Especially if you started a new bag when he began to have issues with it. And call the company for a refund if that is so.
Many Golden puppies do just fine on the non-shred versions of ProPlan. Many Golden puppies do not do so well on the shred versions though so do be sure you get one that does not feature the shreds. If his poops go solid w the PPP food and probiotics, I would think you have figured it out. The vomitting bothers me- I assume they have some sort of obstruction if they are vomitting, even if it is not ingested but is an anomaly of the GI tract. ...

All that aside, a radiograph would tell you if there was a back up somewhere, and since he's going days on and days off, probably isn't the case anyway. The vet should also look for giardia, because it often causes nighttime diarrhea. The down side is it often doesn't show up on a fecal.

I'd change the food. And let TOTW know if you did happen to get a new bag around the time he got sick.
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2nd opinion for sure with X-rays!
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I would ask your vet to treat for giardia, even though the fecal was negative. Giardia and coccidia are notoriously hard to get positives on. My pup had three negative fecals before it came back as positive for coccidia (and she had pure liquid diarrhea the whole time). I would also ask the vet to give you Purina EN Gastroenteric food. It s very bland, easy to digest. See what happens with two weeks of meds and that food.

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Both times I brought in a fecal sample they tested for Giardia. I thought that's what it would be due to his symptoms. They came back negative both times. I went to the vet today and they gave me some antibiotics to try with him, called Metronidazole. I am seriously thinking of switching his food from TOTW, but I am not sure what a good alternative is. He hasn't had anymore diarrhea since this morning, so just once today, which is a big improvement. It normally lasts all day when he has it. Even this morning he was able to hold most of it. I only found a very small wet area on the towel this morning and his backside was a little dirty. I will keep watching him for the rest of the week to see what happens. Thanks for all the help!
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Are his vaccines current? How long has he been on TOTW? We use TOTW(salmon) and have great poops. I'd ask for a full work-up due to the vomiting. What works for one dog, doesn't another so if the food is newer to him I'd look at switching. Our girl is VERY food sensitive- she'll get diarrhea if she sneaks people food(or has any treat with pork or chicken) and she itches like crazy if she has chicken or grain in her foods. It took lots and trial and error to find what works for her.

I'd try the purina Pro as mentioned above if the food is new and not agreeing. If he's been on it since you've had him, I'd request more test...
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