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Old 01-31-2013, 11:34 AM
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I'm on a stage of giving her up. I bought the Halti. tried it but she hates it. when i put it on she is trying to take it off and refuses to move. without it she is crazy. pulling like a huge track. sees a bird or a child or a person and she is going crazy. she cant walk, she always tries to run with all her force to all directions at once. it is really hard for me to hold her. when we go back home she is starting to jump and bite the leash. I don't know what else to do. I say NO, i stop i pull to the opposite side. nothing helps. tried the snacks but she is jumping on me all the time and tries to get them.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:50 AM
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How old is she?
Solinvictus posted a video in another thread that showed how to desensitize the dog to the Halti - we're fighting the same battle here, Max hates the thing, yesterday he glued every part of himself to the driveway and refused to move for a good 15 minutes.
I'm not sure what to do except keeping working on it and trying to make it fun. It's a wonderful thing when it goes well, but not so much when it doesn't.
Here's a link to the video:
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Sheldon is going to be 5 weeks old on Feb 7 so I am also in the process of getting him
to walk on a leash . I exercise him before going out for a walk. This will tire him a bit.
I did see a thread yesterday that you might want to read titled Trick for loose leash.
I've had 4 goldens and I know the frustration that leash walking can bring.
Sounds like your girl needs to release a lot of energy before it is okay with walking.
Just practice every day and she will get it.
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I too have a dog that pull terribly. We tried the halter with the hook in the front. He would not walk. Tried a twenty year old harness , he would have put a clydesdale to shame. Tried the step in halter which was ok for a week. Moved on to the Halti around the nose. He was like a bucking bronco and got it off. My husband was so upset watching he went in the house.
My last resort was using the prong collar from my 150lb mastiff. It worked 95% of the time. He never yelped, not once. He will still pull occasionally but I guess with all the hair on the neck it doesn't bother him.
Regarding jumping and pulling on the leash.....my trainer said use a chain leash. Problem solved.....Murphy walks two to three miles a day!!!
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I too have a dog that pull terribly. We tried the halter with the hook in the front. He would not walk. Tried a twenty year old harness , he would have put a clydesdale to shame. Tried the step in halter which was ok for a week. Moved on to the Halti around the nose. He was like a bucking bronco and got it off. My husband was so upset watching he went in the house.
My last resort was using the prong collar from my 150lb mastiff. It worked 95% of the time. He never yelped, not once. He will still pull occasionally but I guess with all the hair on the neck it doesn't bother him.
Regarding jumping and pulling on the leash.....my trainer said use a chain leash. Problem solved.....Murphy walks two to three miles a day!!!
The prong collar didn't do a thing for Max. But other than that, Max and Murphy could be twins!

Getting ready to do a happy dance, make it a party, put that Halti on so we can go run errands and I can take him into various places with it. I'm hoping that the more fun experiences he has with it on, the more he'll grow to like it. Keep your fingers crossed!
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We had a husky for 14 years that reponded to a halty. A standard colar & leash worked on our second dog (clorky/rotwiler cross) We tried the halty again with our next (Lab) & while it worked she refused to put it on after a couple of walks. We switched to a traditional chain choker & instant success. Our GR Bella always resisted the leash on her collar. She is very petite so we tried a Sporn no-pull harness & success again.

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she is almost 6 months old.
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Put it on them inside during the day so they get used to having it on. I did this with Diesel and it really helped. If leave it on for about 15-20 minutes at a time. Eventually, he got used to it and we have no problem using it anymore


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I too, have a dog that pulls. I'm in the middle of training him to walk by my side. Which, if he wasn't reactive to other dogs on walks I wouldn't mind him walking in front. Him walking next to me is mainly for safety reasons, since I will have more control and it's easier to get his attention on me.
So what I'd do is bring along really tasty treats, like chicken, ham, steak, etc. As long as your dog is walking with a loose leash I wouldn't make a big fuss of the jumping. Reward every few seconds that she is walking well. Or you can hold treats low by her face so that you can lure her. Making her do basic commands will get her focused on you too. Have you ever tried running with her? My boy loves to run, and some dogs will naturally run close to you. Be really unpredictable. Switch directions suddenly, be exciting.
With Diego, when I first take him outside, I walk and train him on the roads he is comfortable on, won't have the urge to pull. Then I tire him out with a tennis ball. After that, he's sometimes drags behind, and I use that chance to walk him farther than normal. After a while, he gets used to walking like a pro just about anywhere.
Today I just ran him up a new road, and surprisingly he did great!
Keep at it, I know it seems frustrating. Your puppy's just a baby, she'll learn. I suggest getting the SENSE-ible harness. Go to a professional trainer, seriously, it's been the best money I've ever spent in my life.

Please take the time to train your dog with positive reinforcement instead of resorting to the prong or choke chain. My dog hated the head collars too, the harness works well for him. I actually like harnesses anyways, it's safer than a regular buckle collar.
I think it's so frustrating as a owner because there are so many ways of training, and you hardly ever see videos of the end result. I put a picture below just to show you that it will work in the long run. So far I've been training Diego for three weeks. Some take a little longer. Hang in there! If you have any questions pm me.

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All of these suggestions are wonderful, and everything will work with Max - as long as I'm a pez dispenser for treats. As soon as there's no food involved, he could care less what I want him to do.

I wouldn't mind him being out in front, if he weren't at the very end of the leash, putting a steady pressure on my arm, which carries up to my back and chest. I have a medical condition that will put me in bed with my heating pad for at least the rest of the day if I walk him for a mile like that.

Today was pretty good. He associated Halti with car, and that's always a fun thing. Slowly we're making progress.
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