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My puppy is 9 weeks also. From the training information I've read, to train her to control her bite you should "yelp" when they bite too hard. You can do this while you are playing somewhat gently with her. If they start to get too excited and no longer listen, then you should get up and walk away from them for 30 seconds. They want to play so they will learn they can't play if they act wild. They also don't want to hurt so they will respond to "yelping."

My vet also gave us an exercise to calm her down, we cradle her on her back in our arms and gently rub her ears, look at her eyes, teeth and front paws while saying "gentle" in a calm voice. We hold her and do this until she calms down. If she gets really rowdy, it can take awhile. I don't know if they have something online that explains this better but it seems to be helpful. Now that we've done the exercise enough, if we catch her before she gets too excited, we can say "gentle" and she'll calm down a bit and control her bite again.

For the most part she is good but I think she's got some teeth coming in and bothering her a bit for the last couple days.

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I may be mistaken but I thought Claudia was also responding to Roushbabe with the 9 week old pup.
Again, I may be mistaken but I think Caudia taught her pup this when she was young and is just doing it now with Rose as maintenance training. (kind of like if you don't use it you lose it)

I haven't thought much about it but I still offer rewards using my thumb and index finger so he is practicing. But our practice is no teeth on skin. (maintenance training)



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I may be mistaken but I thought Claudia was also responding to Roushbabe with the 9 week old pup.
Again, I may be mistaken but I think Caudia taught her pup this when she was young and is just doing it now with Rose as maintenance training. (kind of like if you don't use it you lose it)

I haven't thought much about it but I still offer rewards using my thumb and index finger so he is practicing. But our practice is no teeth on skin. (maintenance training)
I began by acknowledging that I knew people would disagree with me. Everyone needs to assess their own situation, and do what they think they need to do. think we'll just have to leave it at that.


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There is a HUGE difference between aggressive biting and play bite. There is a huge difference between dog aggression and bite inhibition.
What Erika describes is not dog aggression - is an excited puppy who doesn't know what to do with his mouth.


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Gosh I'm lucky! Brew @ 6 months is very very gentle, I figure he learned his bite inhibition and soft mouth from my small pom. He still will play a lot with his mouth but he's so so gentle, the kids will actually roll around the floor laughing when they play with him because they say it tickles.
My son will walk around the house and the yard with Brew and it's neat because Brew will literally be holding Joey's fingertips in his mouth.
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There is a HUGE difference between aggressive biting and play bite. There is a huge difference between dog aggression and bite inhibition.
What Erika describes is not dog aggression - is an excited puppy who doesn't know what to do with his mouth.
It sounds like Erika is tiring of the bruises and cuts. Her dog is a big boy now. Time for him to learn "what to do with his mouth."

Disclosure: The above is nothing more than my opinion. Everyone needs to assess their own situation and do what they feel is necessary and appropriate.


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There is a HUGE difference between aggressive biting and play bite. There is a huge difference between dog aggression and bite inhibition.
What Erika describes is not dog aggression - is an excited puppy who doesn't know what to do with his mouth.
I understand there is a difference and I understand he is excited but I have young children that come to my house and are literally afraid of my dog not because of how big he is but because he likes to bite. I know it's not his fault hes just trying to play in the only way he knows how to play. it's also partially mine for allowing to go along for a couple months before introducing soft bite. I would much rather go into the pure lemon juice method or the method solinvictis said. While you may not agree its what needs to be done at this point. It's been going on for way too long and I know my boy doesn't mean to hurt me but just doesn't know how so that's my job to show him my way.


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He is still very mouthy!

I also should mention that I believe they should know what "no bite" means prior go using the lemon juice. I did not, and would not do that with an 8 week old puppy. Bella was over 3 months old, and had heard "ouch," yelps, etc. Redirections with toys, time out in the crate. We tried everything that is frequently mentioned in this forum. It progressively got worse over time. The breath spray/ lemon juice method ended most of it almost immediately. As I said, she still gets mouthy occasionally, but we now have a means to stop it. Considering she's 60 lbs, that's a good thing in my house.

By the way, it is play biting. Bella has never been aggressive toward another living being since we brought her home. Not even with our cat, who would probably kill Bella if she was capable.


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I'm just curious, how do you train a puppy to have a soft mouth? My puppy of 9 weeks at times does a soft bite but my problem is when he's super excited he tends to forget. I agree with enhancing the golden retriever soft bite and not completely stop their biting.


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what we do is play tug or some other toy game with our pup (and when Chaya was younger). Encourage her to bite the toy. If we feel ANY teeth on our flesh, we say "eh-uh" loudly, turn away, and stop play for 5 seconds. Then we go back to playing. Eventually, Laika started avoiding our hands because she knows that's "game over". It has translated well into not nipping in general. Now we just have to teach her that wool socks on feet are NOT toys
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I've found that "yelping" sometimes just excited the pup more, and she bites down harder! A monotone "eh-uh", almost like a machine or a robot, works a lot better for us.
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