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To breed or not to breed

So I have a male English golden retriever & my sister has a female goldendoodle. She wants to breed them but I'm unsure if I should breed Gus or not. Does the personality of the stud change after breeding? Now Gus is 6months & Tomorrow he has an appointment for a neuter, I scheduled it because he has been humping my leg. He still squats but I wanted to neuter him before he started marking his territory to avoid it completely. But if I decide to breed him ill post pone it. I honesty wanted to breed him because i would love another puppy, & the money i would make would help for my college expenses. I'm just so indesive with this that I would love to hear your opinions! Thank you! It means a lot!
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To breed or not to breed

Do either of these animals have all of their health clearances? If not, i would strongly advise AGAINST breeding.

You will most likely get a lot of comments saying not to breed to a mix because it does nothing to better the breed of golden retrievers.

Looking at the income level, after you've covered the puppy care (food, bedding, vet exams, puppy shots), you will be lucky to break even. Breeding tends to be a sinkhole of money, jmho, a lot of breeders have broken their costs down in different threads.

Overall, I want to challenge you to really look into what it takes to breed two animals ethically, and then decide. I have a feeling, you shouldn't be breeding the two dogs, but again, thats my opinion.


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I personally think it's a horrible idea, there are all ready SO many mixed breed pups out there in shelters that need homes badly, I don't think this world has room for any more "designers"
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Brace yourself-

You are about to receive a lot of info.
People here are very passionate about this breed.
Please read everything you can and think about each an every pup you may (I hope not) bring into this world.

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To breed or not to breed

Re-reading your post, i see Gus is only 6 months old. He's too young imo to breed and he definitely is too young to have health clearances. Dogs must be 2 years old to get hip and elbow clearances. Those clearances are a must, because they tell you if your dogs have good/fair/bad hips and elbows. You don't want to bring life to the world if its going to suffer for the next 10-14 years, especially, knowing you could have prevented all the pain and heartbreak for those families.


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I also say no for the above reasons.
Also, as for making money, assuming your dog has papers, goldendoodles aren't AKC registered, so they don't have papers. Basically it's no different than breeding your golden to a German Shepherd or to a Border Collie or to a Beagle. How much would you pay for a mix breed dog?

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Well English golden doodles are designer dogs. So its not like I'd be breeding two random breeds. & yes they both have their certificates. Gus is cleared for hip dysplasia& is akc registered.
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Wow that is a very good point. Goldendoodles aren't akc registered. But the thing I'm highly concerned about is the cons for Gus. The puppies are in good hands. I tried to research the effects breeding has on the stud but nothing came up.
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Gus's parents might be cleared for hips, but Gus is still too young. You simply can not get a hip clearance until the dog is 2 yrs old.
And, no the golden doodle does not have AKC papers. No designer dogs have AKC papers, AKC only deals with purebreds.
To many many people, it is the same as breeding 2 random breeds.
Even assuming a golden doodle was considered a pure bred, breeding a purebreed golden doodle to a purebred golden retriever results in a mixed breed dog

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Well English golden doodles are designer dogs. So its not like I'd be breeding two random breeds. & yes they both have their certificates. Gus is cleared for hip dysplasia& is akc registered.
Gus can't be cleared until he is 2 yrs old. A Golden Doodle is not a designer dog, it is a mixed breed dog.
No to the breeding. Walk through a dog shelter. Heart breaking. I've done it hundreds of times.
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