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Old 01-03-2013, 01:42 AM
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I am so so sorry you are going through this. Did you sign a written contract with the breeder? If not, then a verbal contract is technically, and legally (though much more difficult to hold up in court) enough. The breeder should be paying for these expenses, especially when she screwed up in the first place. She promised one thing and did not deliver.

When I brought my puppy home he had a similar problem. He had coccidia. I told the breeder and she offered to pay for the costs immediately as part of our written agreement. Certain conditions (like coccidia) are a product of the breeders home environment. The mothers feces infects the pups, though symptoms may not show for 13 days or even until introduced into a stressful situation, such as a puppy going to a new home.

I haven't read all the above posts, but I would strongly suggest bringing this matter to the breeder and ask her to pay for the costs, or at least the portion that the pet insurance would have covered.


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Old 01-03-2013, 08:48 AM
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Have you notified the breeder of the situation with your Pup? And if so what did she say about it. Or did you just ask her about the insurance without telling her the situation? I'm just trying to understand the whole situation with the breeder since you seem to be reluctant to ask her for anything.
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I agree with Mylissyk. If she was doing well on the food the breeder was giving her I would ask her what it was and go back to that.
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As for the food she did horrible on the food from the breeder , didn't eat it and lost weight. As for letting the breeder know , I sent her emails every day giving her updates from day one. She offered on a few occasions for us to come out and get meds she had which I didn't do as its quite a drive and I wanted to just deal with the vet. As of last night her poops looked great and another good one this morning but ended in runny mess again. I am going to check in with the vet , any one know if they can just test for coccidia ?? As for signing anything , I guess we were very naive and actually didn't know much about the process , I do have a lot of these items in emails. The reason I haven't asked for any compensation is I am a sucker for conflict , I hate it. As far as I know there may not be any but I think I am not wanting to make my great puppy memories into horrible ones although I guess it's been overshadowed by hurt ones. I am going to email her today and express our concerns. Thanks everyone for all the advice.


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I am so very sorry this is happening to you. If it's any consolation even if the insurance was in effect, I know that most insurances have a deductible and possibly some things aren't covered.

What did the tests say about her bloody diarrhea?

If she is still passing blood, she needs to see the vet immediately. That is very dangerous and especially in a puppy.
So sorry this happened to you right in the beginning. Karen519 makes a great point. Pet insurances usually have a 2 week waiting period before a claim can be made. Of course, if your breeder had actually activated the insurance she said she had, then Carly's illness might have been covered.

But if it's any consolation, most pet insurance is so very inferior to our 'people" health insurance that you may have actually gotten back far less than you would have thought.

Once Carly is well, you can try collecting a portion of what you had to already spend from the breeder. But if the conflict causes you more stress than it's worth, don't allow this to upset you during a time you want to be enjoying your puppy. If your breeder is an honest well-intentioned person, she will likely offer to help you with the costs if you tell her what has happened since you brought Carly home.

If at all possible, it's good to keep a good relationship with the breeder because over the years ahead, she can be a great resource for you.
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As for the food she did horrible on the food from the breeder , didn't eat it and lost weight. As for letting the breeder know , I sent her emails every day giving her updates from day one. She offered on a few occasions for us to come out and get meds she had which I didn't do as its quite a drive and I wanted to just deal with the vet. As of last night her poops looked great and another good one this morning but ended in runny mess again. I am going to check in with the vet , any one know if they can just test for coccidia ?? As for signing anything , I guess we were very naive and actually didn't know much about the process , I do have a lot of these items in emails. The reason I haven't asked for any compensation is I am a sucker for conflict , I hate it. As far as I know there may not be any but I think I am not wanting to make my great puppy memories into horrible ones although I guess it's been overshadowed by hurt ones. I am going to email her today and express our concerns. Thanks everyone for all the advice.


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I think you should too. I'm not big on conflict either, but if something was promised and not delivered I wouldn't hesitate to let her know how disappointed I am in the situation. And after reading more here I think she should at least help out with the portion insurance would have covered. No puppy is totally guaranteed and things do come up, but being told you have it only to find out she dropped the ball is IMO inexcusable.

As for testing for Coccidia...I would think they can, but I am not a vet so don't know for sure....

Switching her food may help, but if it were me and IMO...I would put her on the chicken and rice for a week or so and then start adding the new food slowly. This poor baby has had it rough, not to mention you. All we want is to enjoy our new pups and we end up worrying over everything, we don't need the added worry of health issues too. I also might look into adding some probiotics to her food.

For what it's worth, this is my opinion. Again I am sorry you are going through this....
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When I brought my Tucker home he ended up with giardia really badly. It took like 3 months to finally go away completely. A local vet said the breeder I got him from was actually known for sending pups home with it.

I hope whatever is going on doesn't end up costing you too much and I hope your little one feels better soon!
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I agree , I want remain in good contact with my breeder , and want no stress among us. I think that's a large reason why I am having difficulty confronting her with this. I am a keep the peace kind of person. I do agree that right now its not much as in the cost of what we would have received from insurance but we have no idea yet how much further we need to go. It's more the feeling of mislead and disappointment of being told one thing and now having to deal with it all. I sure things will work out fine , I am more concerned at getting Carly better.


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Well she has done a full 360 now she doesn't seem well at all no energy and seems to have pain in her tummy. She is sleeping right now, waiting to see if it passes after her rest. Poor thing , I need to get this figured out. Has anyone had the diarrhea panel done and did it solve anything? I think I will call the vet and see if he thinks I should do the bland diet again and introduce a new food. She is not herself my cat just came up to her and she could care less all other times its usually a cat and dog fight. I really hate this , just want her better.


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Well she has done a full 360 now she doesn't seem well at all no energy and seems to have pain in her tummy. She is sleeping right now, waiting to see if it passes after her rest. Poor thing , I need to get this figured out. Has anyone had the diarrhea panel done and did it solve anything? I think I will call the vet and see if he thinks I should do the bland diet again and introduce a new food. She is not herself my cat just came up to her and she could care less all other times its usually a cat and dog fight. I really hate this , just want her better.


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First off - I am so sorry Carly is so unwell. This breaks my heart.

But here's the thing. If your breeder really is as good as you say, she will want to know this, she will be upset that one of her puppies is so ill, and she will offer to compensate for the lack of insurance, She might even ask you if you want to return the puppy to her (which I'm sure you don't).

Here's another thing - CKC registered does not mean clearances were done. You may have already figured this out. One of the experienced breeders here can advise on how to check if clearances were done on the parents.

I really, really think you should contact the breeder. To tell her - but also to find out if any of the other puppies, or the mother, have been ill.

Please let us know what happens...
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