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I will be paying close attention to how Bentley's boot camp goes! We also spoiled our little Charlie on his first days home and had several accidents. Last night and today we've been crating and sticking to a schedule, with much better results. I'm sure we'll have a lot to learn from you and Bentley in the coming months.


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Is it possible that 'some' of Bentley's problem is genetics? And if so will training correct it??
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I was thinking, you said that Ky used to correct him but she has stopped. Perhaps now that he has gotten a little older he has adult teeth and is using a softer mouth and thus isn't biting down so hard and hurting her. Sure, he is being a bully, but a soft-mouthed bully and that is why she isn't correcting as much. I have noticed that Winston still bites Riley just as much but he more "play bites" and uses a softer mouth so he gets corrected less.
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I have noticed with Tess that she was much more tolerant when Liza was little. It didn't help that Tess was ill at that time, of course. But now that Liza is getting a big girl (48 lbs), she doesn't put up with most of the nonsense anymore. It depends on what it is about. Like when Liza steals her bone, Tess will start by complaining to me, then walk up to Liza and stare at her (you should see Liza's stare back!) and then just grab the bone. Sometime Liza will snap at her, but I always step in when that happens. But when Liza just starts biting in her fur, she corrects her by working her on the ground and hold her. Usually it's Liza who starts complaining then.
One difference between Tess and Ky is that for Tess, Liza never was a puppy she felt protective of. She let her do her puppy things (like completely ruining her tail) but she would never do as Ky did. I think that Tess and Liza will have a real 'talk/fight' about who is top dog pretty soon...
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I was thinking, you said that Ky used to correct him but she has stopped. Perhaps now that he has gotten a little older he has adult teeth and is using a softer mouth and thus isn't biting down so hard and hurting her. Sure, he is being a bully, but a soft-mouthed bully and that is why she isn't correcting as much. I have noticed that Winston still bites Riley just as much but he more "play bites" and uses a softer mouth so he gets corrected less.
Good point! He does have adult teeth and I have drilled the 'soft mouth' into him, that's one thing I haven't slacked off on so he gets it.
He refuses to walk by Ky without reaching over and biting her ear on the way by. Or stealing anything she has and she allows it. She acts like a too lenient mother which is why I'm taking over.
Also, yesterday before I started his boot camp he wanted a bite of my sandwich, I don't allow begging of any kind and he knows it. When I told him to go to bed he reached up and nipped my arm before running to his bed.
That did it. Let boot camp begin
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I have a mother-daughter pair of goldens. The mom is similar to Ky, in that she was mistreated before she came to us, although certainly not to the extent Ky was. The daughter is 2.5 years and started out like Bentley, thinking the world revolved around her. I was always hoped that Momma would tell off her bratty baby, but she never did until recently. In the fall, they were in a 4 acre field running, and baby kept pulling her mothers front leg out from under her, after about the 6th time this happened, momma had had enough and came up roaring, she chased her baby across the field until they came to me and baby was able to hide behind me, typical bully. It almost seems like the "baby" is now considered an adult and that behaviour is no longer tolerated.

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Also, yesterday before I started his boot camp he wanted a bite of my sandwich, I don't allow begging of any kind and he knows it. When I told him to go to bed he reached up and nipped my arm before running to his bed.
That did it. Let boot camp begin
Oh, he being a saucy little boy. Maybe is he just precocious and reaching adolescence a bit early.
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I have a mother-daughter pair of goldens. The mom is similar to Ky, in that she was mistreated before she came to us, although certainly not to the extent Ky was. The daughter is 2.5 years and started out like Bentley, thinking the world revolved around her. I was always hoped that Momma would tell off her bratty baby, but she never did until recently. In the fall, they were in a 4 acre field running, and baby kept pulling her mothers front leg out from under her, after about the 6th time this happened, momma had had enough and came up roaring, she chased her baby across the field until they came to me and baby was able to hide behind me, typical bully. It almost seems like the "baby" is not considered an adult and that behaviour is no longer tolerated.
WOOHOO!!!! Good for mommy!! I keep hoping that Ky will just get fed up and go steal her bone back or put him flat on his back like he does to other puppies but she just doesn't do it.
Maybe it's the fact that I'm much tougher on him right now, I'm not sure but this AM Bentley jumped on Ky's love seat and tried to push her off, she remained where she was and he jumped down. I secretly had a lil party in my head
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I firmly believe that, while the behavior itself is not genetic, the tendency to push your buttons is. Some dogs are just more easy going than others, some are easier to train than others, some are more stubborn, and so on. You train the dog you have, not the dog you wish you had.
Huge kudos to you for recognizing that you need to deal with this NOW. What you are doing is very similar to the "nothing in life is free" program, which is very successful with dogs who like to push.
This is not directed at you, because you have recognized the issue and are moving on it, but one of my pet peeves is when people excuse behavior because "he/she is just a baby/puppy" etc. They are still saying it when the dog is TWO!!!!
By the time a dog is about 7-8 months old, he has pretty well reached sexual maturity, which makes him about the human equivalent of 12-13 years old. No longer a baby by any stretch!!! More so, a willful, obnoxious teenager, and you really don't want to give an inch with them.
Anyway, good luck, stick to your guns, I'll enjoy reading your progress.



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I wonder if Ky wondered what was acceptable correction. I imagine since she was abused she may still be a little insecure esp in new situations and maybe she was unsure of what to do and did not want to do something that would disappoint you so she did nothing....maybe she was getting her cues from you and not being a hard*** as you were not until today when she see that you are being that way so she now knows it is OK and she is standing her ground and keeping her place on the love seat.....just a thought.
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