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View Poll Results: Do you use a corrective collar?
Yes, a prong/pinch type of collar 25 28.41%
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My trainer told me that choke chains are the ones that can do the most damage. So we agreed to use a prong collar. He trained us on the e-collar also. I didn't like the idea of shocking my pup. But it gets his attention quick and stops bad behavior. I keep it on the lowest two settings.
When using an e collar, the correct setting is when the dog looks around to see what is going on that is different when you touch the button. If he jerks or yelps it is to high and will harm the dogs skin and training.
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I 'm heartened by all the No Way votes- it is nice to see the results. Great poll- very interesting to me.

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I don't see how you can use these collars when Goldens are already so quick to learn. I guess it depends on the owners patients.
It really isn't about patience. Every owner has their own goals and aspirations for their dog, and they have to find a path that helps them get there. Then you also have to keep in mind that every dog is unique and no two train exactly the same way. With some dogs you can get away with only a lead and flat collar. With others a lead and pinch collar is a far more effective combination.

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I don't see how you can use these collars when Goldens are already so quick to learn. I guess it depends on the owners patients.
I'm not sure it's really about patience exactly, but more about what people believe will work effectively. As much as I disagree with those who put a prong on every or nearly every dog they train, I don't think of them as impatient.

However, I do really agree with the idea that Goldens tend to be so easy to train that it seems weird to need a corrective collar. I teach some classes at a local dog training center, and we deal with breeds that are much, much harder to motivate than Goldens, all without corrective collars. There are exceptions, of course, but Goldens tend to be on the easy side when it comes to basic manners and obedience.
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4 Goldens in 30 years never gave a training collar a thought. In my experience Goldens just have too high a desire to please their people. That said.. When my Leonberger reached 8 month old and weighted over 100 pounds I found these collars do serve a purpose, they work, and does not harm the dog when used correctly.
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Never use one on a puppy, and if you train your puppy you won't need one when their an adult.
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Prong collars get a bad rap! They don't hurt. You just give a quick little pull up and say 'no'. I only used it when I walked coby. He was huge and could pull me down the street. Two days on a prong, never had to give it a quick tug again.

Every breeder/trainer I know uses a prong. Chokes and zap collars are dangerous. Prong is not.

I would also never use on a puppy.
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Back in the 80's when I used prong collars, my trainers would have hammered me if I gave a quick pull/pop on a prong collar.

The prong collar was referred to as a self correcting collar and the hand holding the leash stayed planted. Exert force on the collar and a prong collar can certainly injure a dog. Prongs were (and I believe still are) used to fine tune heeling.

Even then, it was a micro prong under very specific circumstances to minimize the potential for injury - trainers routinely threatened to tie our arms to our bodies to prevent us from pulling up while our dog was on a prong.



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Prong collars get a bad rap! They don't hurt. You just give a quick little pull up and say 'no'. I only used it when I walked coby. He was huge and could pull me down the street. Two days on a prong, never had to give it a quick tug again.

Every breeder/trainer I know uses a prong. Chokes and zap collars are dangerous. Prong is not.

I would also never use on a puppy.


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Great post by Sunrise. I share those memories with her, along with sad fact that some people sharpen the prongs so that they are not rounded like they should be. In horses, bits have the same issues. You can win the battle, but lose the dog's trust in you, sense of safety in the world, or happiness to work.

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Always been to nervous to use them
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