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What's Her Pedigree Like?

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Hi all,

So I have a golden pup who is 6 mos old. I was researching a bit on her pedigree and just wanted to get your take on it. I only started researching because I've been told that since Lily has tree trunks for legs (more like thick horse legs lol), that she was from a show pedigree/background. I do know that she has a lot of import bloodlines. From what I can tell, she has alot of champion lines (per K9data). Hmm wonder if I should show her? :)

What is your take on her pedigree? Thanks :)
 
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I don't really see any titles on that pedigree? Did you register your dog with K9data?
Did you buy her as a show dog? You know, even if there are titled show dogs in a pedigree, it does not mean that every pup is show quality. In fact, I think from what I read, breeders are lucky if they have a couple show quality in a litter. Just going by what I read now.
 
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hi all

sorry her info wasn't complete on k9data.com. I just added it. Here is a link to view a pic of her and her completed pedigree.

Pedigree: LILY'S A SUNLIGHT'S GOLDEN GLOW

Thank you!! =)
Lisa, if you want to put her brother in the database, his name is Henry's Hunter and he's same # but 05 at end instead of her last two digits= Iwas on AKC anyway and thought to look for you, that's the only one I found that was registered.
 
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I'm not going to judge whether your dog is physically show quality or not. I'm not that good. So let's look at it as if she was totally showable right now. They first class you can show her in and get any points would be the 9-12 month class. You don't say where you are, so I'm assuming US or Canada. First you need to have full registration on her in CKC or AKC. Do you have that? Let's assume you do.

So next you need to look at her birthdate. Since she's only 6 months old you need to wait a bit before showing her. She can show on her 9 month birthday that same day would be the first. So look for shows that are coming up and the next ones would be on or after 8/26/14 would be the earliest show she can be in. There are classes younger, that you could do, it's all up to you, but they don't have any points. Some people do them just for experience.

Before you show, you and her need to train. Showing a dog isn't the easiest thing to do. So look at your local kennel clubs or obedience clubs for handling classes. In the UK they call it Ring Craft (which is a far better name I think). What the classes will teach you is the patterns the judges will have you run your dog in the ring. They will teach you how to "stack" your dog. When to bait your dog, etc.

For additional help you should sign up for every match you can. They are generally $5, but can vary a bit. They are strictly for training and not for points. Matches are usually put on by breed clubs or kennel clubs.

There are several other venues you can show in that you might have fun with than just AKC and CKC. Look for UKC or International (I've forgotten the initials). UKC judges will evaluate your dog and let you know how she does.

Lastly, review the breed standard and see how your girl meets those expectations. The breed standard can be found on the grca.org website. Read it, know it, be able to recite it. It's the book on showing dogs.

I would also suggest going to dog shows and seeing what the dogs look like and maybe meeting some people at the show in the golden world. Dog showing is hard. You will see so many lovely dogs and have no idea how one wins and one doesn't. I wouldn't want to be a judge, it would be too hard.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!
 
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They first class you can show her in and get any points would be the 9-12 month class.
Puppies can actually show in the 6-9 months class once they turn 6 months. It is fun to show in the puppy class, and for sure you can win points from there, but but it takes a whole lot of planning and training to make it an optimal experience for both you and the pup. You will want to take her collar off her, and teach her to "pose" properly ( known as stacking), or it is hard to evaluate her in a photo. Regardless, you would want to attend handling class, find a mentor etc to make sure your puppy is show quality enough to have it be a fun learning experience for you both. Maybe you can go to a show and watch, subscribe to the Golden Retriever News and read along, look at the "Blue Book" that helps teach conformation - you have plenty of time to learn. For me, my first golden I chose with the intention of showing her was a complete disaster in terms of her actually being competitive, but good in the sense of helping me learn how to groom, condition, have an eye for the standard, meet mentors, learn the show rules spoken and unspoken etc.
 
#9 ·
Hmm wonder if I should show her? :)
It is really hard to tell you anything about her pedigree since many of the dogs are lacking health clearances and titles. I wouldn't expect for her to turn out to be show quality, even the best breedings with heavily titled parents may or may not produce show quality pups. If you want to show you could look into performance events like rally, obedience, agility, tracking etc. They are tons of fun and really strengthen the bond between you and your puppy. Good luck! :wavey:
 
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The path to conformation is long and arduous. It is not for the faint of heart. I'm not sure if I would ever do it again. I understand why so many people send their dog off to a pro to finish instead of getting involved. It's really hard and there are so few chances to win. Unfortunately it's not a pass/fail system.
 
#15 ·
Thanks everyone! I wasn't actually planning on showing. It was one of those idea things lol ....

Its too exhausting work and I"ve never done it before. Ive just read about it. It's waaayyyy too much work for this lazy person :p

I am just looking for any information on her pedigree... :) Thanks again !
 
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I don't recognize any of the dogs in her pedigree. Did you get to meet her parents and/or grandparents? Maybe her breeder can give you contact information for the overseas dogs' breeders?
 
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Jill I didn't think you could get points until they were 9 months. I thought it was just sweeps for 6-9 months for fun. I've only shown 9-12 months and above.
 
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My boy got his first 2 points in the 6-9 puppy class.
 
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They are all so different- learn lots with each. My childhood morgan horse breeder had a saying about horse shows I liked - can't tell a flower when to open, and can't tell a filly when to bloom.

Same definitely goes for dogs. Lush didnt blossom until the 12-18 class, and Copley didn't win until Open. Mystic earned his first 6 points in 6-9 puppy then finished at 12 months. Have a new baby dog coming this fall- open to listening to him and if he is ready at six months great, if he is two great. It is definitely more of a marathon than a sprint.
 
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This pedigree is of Eastern European origin with some Western European and Scandinavian breeding going back to some UK lines. You will be able to research clearances from Sweden on Rasdata but you have to be able to translate some of it and Google is quite helpful! Behind the UK lines you will find some clearances on the UK kennel club website.If you need any more help feel free to message me Regards Annef
 
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Dumbbells are used in obedience competitions. Look for an obedience trial in your area and go watch. They throw a dumbbell over a jump and the dog has to jump the jump, get the dumbbell and return the same way. They are white plastic dumbbells. I used one for my forced fetch training and it worked really well because of the size.

And to answer your question, Connie Cleveland has an excellent series of DVDs you can purchase that walk you through the process of getting your dog to pick up a dumbbell. Just search Connie Cleveland on google.
 
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