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So as I continue to find the best match for Breeze's next litter (next Spring) I may have the opportunity to aquire frozen semen from the sire of my heart dog Tucker.

Please let me know what you think, also what have been your experiences with frozen semen if you have had any. Thank you.

Five generation pedigree: Joey x Breeze

If you have a better suggestion (sire wise), please give me your input as well (you can PM me if you'd like). I have several choices that I am mulling over, but I have not made any decisions yet.
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Faelan is from a frozen results are very nice.
Also some very nice obedience dogs are being/have been bred from frozen.
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So as I continue to find the best match for Breeze's next litter (next Spring) I may have the opportunity to aquire frozen semen from the sire of my heart dog Tucker.

Please let me know what you think, also what have been your experiences with frozen semen if you have had any. Thank you.
I would not do a frozen breeding with a maiden bitch--before I go to that kind of expense I want to know that the female is fertile and a good mother. So you have that in place with your girl already.

The last time I bred my Breeze it was a frozen to Belvedere's Triple Threat MH ***. We did lots of progesterone as timing is key with frozen--it does not live long once thawed. I had a surgical AI done--the semen was only about 30% motility so we wanted it to get right to where it was needed. She carried 5 pups, but had to have an emergency C due to a torsion of one horn, and I lost that pup. My vet did see signs of reabsorption in that horn as well--basically because that boy ended up being the only pup on that side he had a lot of room to move and got things twisted. It was a pity as he was a nice sturdy boy. I would not say the reabsortions were the fault of the AI process, but maybe more of a result of lack of viability which can be an issue with degredated sperm quality. How old was the male in question when he was collected?

It was an expensive litter, but I am still glad I did it as it produced my wonderful Bon-Bon who has so much potential, and her awesome brother Baron who at 23 months old is already SH WCX CD. It was a real stepping stone towards the goals of my breeding program. So if it is a line you love, and sets you on the path you want to follow, I would say it is worth the gamble.
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I like performance and conformation dogs so I'd suggest Beau-D!

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I shouldn't be commenting because I don't know much about these things but that Beau-D's got some impressive dogs behind him. But isn't he too young?? He's past his 2nd birthday but K9 Data doesn't show any offspring yet.

I was impressed to see where Breeze comes from. Her dad, TNT's Stanley Steamer looks like he must be amazing.
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He has a litter on the ground right now I believe. He's 2.5 and has all clearances- he is not too young. I have seen him multiple times but don't know his owner personally but believe he has been owner handled to his field and obedience titles!


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I like performance and conformation dogs so I'd suggest Beau-D!

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Wow! He is very nice! Hmmmm, wheels turning....

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I think I would think twice about doing a frozen breeding on a bitch that age, she is turning six, typically the litter size is smaller at this age for a multitude of issues, mostly the condition of the uterus can only be good for so many years, that combined with frozen semen, really compromised, and your timing has to be perfect. It seems a bit risky of missing, then what would be the plan? (some people don't breed after 7, some don't care but it is something to consider.) The last breeding I did, was full progesterone's, surgical and fresh semen, and I got two puppies, on a bitch that was just over 6.5 years, if I had tried frozen it would have been a miss for sure.
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