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Getting a new puppy: raw diet?

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I skimmed the book "Canine Nutrigenomics" so I have a very basic understanding of the raw diet. I have read a lot of good things about Primal's raw patties so I plan to go that route... My two main questions at this point are:

1) If the puppy was fed kibble by the breeder, can I go ahead and switch to raw food immediately?

2) Should I only feed the dog raw products from Primal or should I supplement kibble for one meal and primal raw for another meal?
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It's been a long time since we had a puppy, but I remember we were advised to transition a pup from the breeder's food to the new one over a lengthy period. After all, they have enough new things to get used to without a change in diet as well! There's also the problem of a puppy's more delicate stomach. So many foods are just too rich for a young puppy, and you don't want to be dealing with diarrhea as well as potty training.
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I have 2 pups (~2 years, 4.5 months) that were weaned onto raw, have never had kibble. I strongly suggest you keep your pup on the breeder's kibble until your pup is home & settled in. The change in environment, water supply, stress...can cause or bring about digestive issues that can be troublesome to resolve without knowing the factors causing it, a food change on top of it all is not something you want to throw in the mix. That being said, food changes need to be gradual but I 've been told not to mix kibble & raw at the same feeding, so if you're feed 3x's a day, start slowing replacing meals w/ raw. I feed raw from grinds provided by Blue Ridge Beef as well Top Quality Dog Food, cheaper & still quality IMO than a brand like Primal. Check for co-ops in your area & try to find yourself a local mentor. Puppies need to have a balanced diet as they are rapidly growing.


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There are a couple facebook groups "Raw Feeding Friends" I think is one, you could probably join one of those groups and find great information about how to transition. I feed my GOlden raw and my collie kibble. Tonight my husband fed the dogs and couldn't find a packet of raw that was thawed out so he just gave the Golden a scoop of kibble. She was delighted and it won't cause her a bit of trouble. She switches back and forth all the time. I agree with letting the puppy adjust to your home on her breeder's food and then when the bag of food is gone switch her over. She should have no trouble.


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Congrats on your upcoming new pup!! You must be so excited.

I didn“t migrate Brisby to a raw diet until she was about 2 years old ( wish I had done this from when she was a pup), therefore I can“t offer you any advice for starting with young puppy.

What I can suggest is that you consider finding yourself a holistic veterinarian who supports/advocates feeding raw. According to Brisby's vet, most prepared raw diets claim to be balanced and complete, however more often than not, they are not and lack essential vitamins, minerals and Omega 3. You will likely need to mix some kind of supplement with the Primal patties to ensure that your new pup is getting a complete and balanced diet.A DVM with raw feeding experience would be able to tell you what specifically you need to add to the raw food of your choice.

For example, I feed Brisby Big Country Raw dinners and blends. The food is great quality and has all kinds of goodies in it, however our vet recommends adding Dr Dobias Green min, Soul Food and a good Omega 3 oil to the diet ( this is what she does for her dogs). You don't need to use these products however a vet will best be able to guide you as to what you need to add as all foods are different, specifically for a growing pup...and no, you don't need the kibble at all.

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So did the willpower fail and you went back and got the male puppy? Enjoy :-)
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So did the willpower fail and you went back and got the male puppy? Enjoy :-)
haha I managed to hold strong!! I found a great breeder that has all of the health clearances in order. It is going to be a long three months =(
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Congratulations! Hey the timing is perfect, spring is a much better time to bring home a puppy. Can't wait to get pictures :-)
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Do you guys feed raw for every meal or can you do a high quality kibble for the morning meal and maybe the raw patties for dinner? What are some brands to consider other than Primal?
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Do you guys feed raw for every meal or can you do a high quality kibble for the morning meal and maybe the raw patties for dinner? What are some brands to consider other than Primal?
I feed a 50-50 diet to my 2 boys. They are fed Acana kibble in the morning and raw (or home cooked) for supper. I use a lot of the Carnivora food. It comes in a number of different proteins (ie. rabbit, beef, pork, duck, elk, bison, llama, lamb) and comes in patty form. I take it out in the morning and let it thaw for the day. I also use Sojos which is a dehydrated food. You just add water, let it sit for awhile and feed. It comes in beef, turkey, lamb, goat and plain (you just add your own protein). Another raw I use is Nature's Variety.


I also use chicken necks regularly. I normally add a few to their suppers. Chicken backs are also good but my one boy doesn't seem to care for them. I also buy meats from the grocery store (ie. liver, kidney, heart, steak) and feed those as well. I will also once a month or so make a crock pot full of doggy stew (ground beef, stew meat, chicken, turkey) with a variety of veggies.


I started my last boy (who is now 4.5 years old) on raw as soon as I brought him home from the breeders. I started slowly but he transitioned well and had no issues at all. I'm hoping to bring a new puppy home in August/September and will be starting him on raw as well.


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