I emailed them about a month ago and they said its kinda hidden on the page do control F on the GA page and you will find it


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Didn't work for me. Do you mind telling me the number? BTW, their FAQ section says their food contains an "appropriate amount" of ash, whatever that means.

Also, what is your thinking regarding pre- and probiotics? Do you think they are beneficial in dog food?

First thing is that carbohydrates are derived from a starch source such as rice( a grain) or potato(not a grain). Both supply carbohydrates.

So, if we take Momentum to figure out the carbs;

100-water(10%)-protein(35%)-fat(25%)-fiber(3%)-ash(6%)=approx 21% carbs.

Pursuit; 100-10-30-20-3-6=31%

Kinesis Grain free; 100-10-32-18-4.5-6.9=29.6%

Kinesis 100-10-26-16-3-5.8=39.2%

All of the numbers are on the website and I list ash so we have accuracy versus a guess. Many would assume 10% ash if nothing is listed.

Also, my sales force is just myself. I don't remember being in Canada at all for years since we moved our production back to the States. Ohio Pet has only one sales guy, too.

Hope this helps. You can always email me directly at drtim@drtims.com

It says 20% from carbs for their turkey food. I'm not at all concerned about the ash content in their food considering ingredients. In my nutrition classes we haven't really done much on pre and probiotics but here's my opinion on them. Personally I feel there is very little regulation on probiotics in pet food and believe that you should add separately. I read an interesting study a year ago that tested a series of dog and cat foods claiming to have probiotics and they found only 2 of the foods had anything substantial and Afew they found none whatsoever. Just my opinion though, I feed raw so I'm able to manage what I feed easier so I supplement with foods instead


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A good example of natural probiotic source is green tripe, I like Trippett in particular, although fresh is probably better


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Thanks Dr. Tim!!!

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3 days and only 11 pages on a dog food thread ? Happy I stay out of the chaos.

No disrespect whatsoever my friends

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Hmm, I'm seeing only 6 pages or maybe that's only on mobile


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That is 20% of calories from vegetable carbs according to the BtB website. I assume you do not know the ash content of BtB and I will further assume that you made up the nonsense about the "control f" to break the secret code on the BtB website. The fact that you think the ingrediants listed on the label makes the total ash content irrelevant is troubling. High ash content can be detrimental and you should care about it.

Can you offer any proof that you are, in fact, a vet student? With all due respect, your obvious lack of chemistry and science knowledge raises serious questions.

Do you have a link to the probiotics study to which you referred? Was this the one:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340078/

Control f is to search up a term, for example enter control f, a search feature pops up in the top right corner and you search the term


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