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Opinions on this dog food....?

My friend wants to switch his large dog over to this. He is currently feeding Kibbles and Bits. I suggested Pro Plan but he wants to stick with grain free.

AuthorityŽ Adult Large Breed Chicken & Potato Formula Dog Food - Dry Food - Food - PetSmart

  • Ingredients: chicken, chicken meal (source of glucosamine and chondroitin), dried green peas, potato starch, flaxseed meal, dried potatoes, dried beet pulp, natural flavor, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), dicalcium phosphate, salt, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, choline chloride, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of ascorbic acid), copper sulfate, vitamin A supplement, manganese sulfate, niacin, d-calcium pantothenate, vitamin D3 supplement, riboflavin, calcium iodate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, sodium selenite, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement and dried chicken cartilage (source of glucosamine and chondroitin)
  • Guaranteed Analysis: Crude Protein (min) 25.0%, Crude Fat (min) 12.0%, Crude Fiber (max) 4.5%, Moisture (min) 10.0%, Calcium (min) 1.1%, Phosphorus (min) 0.9%, Zinc (min) 175mg/kg, Selenium (min) 0.15mg/kg, Vitamin A (min) 15,000 IU/kg, Vitamin E (min) 225 IU/kg, Omega-6 Fatty Acids* (min) 2.8%, Omega-3 Fatty Acids* (min) 0.2%, Glucosamine* (min) 400mg/kg, Chondroitin* (min) 300mg/kg, Ascorbic Acid* (Vitamin C) (min) 20mg/kg
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It looks good to me.

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Is he aware of how high in sugar a food is if the major starches are peas and potatoes? In order to get such a low protein and low fat GA, a "grain free" food like this needs to have a major starch contributor, so the five starches in a row after the chicken meal are doing that job. And since peas and potatoes come first, it seems like they're providing a substantial amount of the bulk of this food. Just something for him to consider.
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Is he aware of how high in sugar a food is if the major starches are peas and potatoes? In order to get such a low protein and low fat GA, a "grain free" food like this needs to have a major starch contributor, so the five starches in a row after the chicken meal are doing that job. And since peas and potatoes come first, it seems like they're providing a substantial amount of the bulk of this food. Just something for him to consider.

Okay I can let him know. So how would this food be comparable to something like Pro Plan sensitive skin and stomach if I would convince him to feed that? It has grains in it and arent grains high in sugar as well?
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Okay I can let him know. So how would this food be comparable to something like Pro Plan sensitive skin and stomach if I would convince him to feed that? It has grains in it and arent grains high in sugar as well?
Does it have similar fat and protein numbers?

Things like ground corn and barley have a higher ratio of complex starches to sugars than peas and potatoes do. I'm not sure what the isolated potato starch they use in this food is, so maybe they pull out some of the simple sugars in order to avoid the issue. I don't know and you can't get that from the ingredient list.
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I think the best foods in Petsmart are Pro Plan Select Turkey and Bil Jac.
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Your friend.. Shouldn't go with it because it seems its got a lower animal protein percentage. I'm also not liking the beat pulp and how high up potato is, still prefer it over corn though


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They could feed a lot worse food and it is a giant step up from Kibbles and Bits! Kibbles and Bits is definealty not Grain Free!

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[QUOTE=Tuco;2218362]Your friend.. Shouldn't go with it because it seems its got a lower animal protein percentage. I'm also not liking the beat pulp and how high up potato is, still prefer it over corn though


Beet pulp is a superior fiber and corn is in all respects better than potato.
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Opinions on this dog food....?

Beat pulps fibre isn't really nessesary, it's a By-Product waste, that alone should be enough to stop people from wanting to feed it to their animals. By Product waste is never a good thing, it has no nutritional value. Most likely it is put into dog food for it's fiber benefits.
When they spray sugar beets with pesticides and herbicides it gets into the foliage. They used to then cut the tops off so your animals were not getting it in their feed. Then don't do that anymore so all animals being fed beet pulp are now getting those pesticides in their feed. It sure as hell is too high on the list for it to madder.
As for corn vs potato, it's not nearly as digestible, it's cheaper and more likely to be used as a filler to save money and when it's in food it's generally higher up. GMO corn is of big concern and of the pesticides and hidden contaminants are also very prevalent. And with the exeption of antioxidants and omega 6s which in excess have been shown to be more harmful than beneficial, potato is of a higher nutritional value than corn.


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