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Also worth noting that no one else can call their food a perscription diet because hills has that trademarked
There are no guidelines to making a perscription diet and most of different ones are the same


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False, Hills may have a trademark on "Prescriptives", but not prescription.

Personally, I give my vet credit for her education, intelligence and common sense and to distinguish between total BS and good science. I also give forum members credit for picking up on some misinformation being purported about some of the dog food companies in this and other threads. If my dog's vet felt Hills Prescriptives were wrong for my dog she'd prescribe one of the Purina OR Royal Canin prescription diets.

I have one dog on Purina PP who is doing great and another on a prescription diet who is finally absorbing his food. Do what is best for your dog, enough said.
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Pro plan?

There are a ton of brands on the market. One of my breeders used blue, the other used pro plan... Pro plan seems to be more affordable, easier to access, makes a 36lb bag, shows the same or better results as the more expensive brands.

I personally can not tell you for 100% what PPP is doing for my dog, but I can tell you that he's eating his meals, not skipping like he was with ekunuba, doesn't have gas like blue, has no icky stuff under his eyes, skin looks lush, has plenty of energy so for that why would I change him from PPP?


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Our vet said Pro Plan is good despite the bags of Hills food that line the wall in the waiting room.


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The Vet I see at my Clinic feeds her own dogs Pro Plan, she has two Aussies. She also regularly attends Nutrition Seminars given in my State.

In past years I've had a couple of my dogs that were put on a Hill's Prescription Formula to take care of a particular problem and I've also had one dog on Royal Canin's prescription food.

My dogs are eating PPP SS which is Salmon with no corn and doing great on it. I see no need to change foods for either of them since they're both doing so well on it.

I learned a very long time ago, just because something costs a lot, doesn't necessarily mean it's better or the best.

I have to agree with what DG said above in her post, if you find a food that works for your dog, then stick with it, why change.

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quite frankly I think the perscription diets are a huge scam, if you feed a healthy food with adequate nutrition any particular changes you need to make depending on the condition, quite frank even without adjustments the results will still be better, I noticed that the difference in ingredients between the different prescriptions was almost nothing exept Afew different minerals
I didn't feel the need to contradict the earlier post about what Hills does for vets because it's largely accurate with a few distortions (the vet students don't sell the donated food for personal profit; the university sells it to fund programs).

However, this is irresponsible to the point of being dangerous. Just because you can't tell the difference by reading the back of a bag doesn't mean there isn't a difference. For some dogs, the difference between chronic illness and solid health is a prescription food. In a small number of cases, it's life or death.

It's breathtakingly irresponsible and arrogant to come on a forum and say that prescription foods are a scam and that the foods that you personally approve of are going to be better every time. Just imagine what could happen if somebody took you seriously and switched their sick dog from vet-prescribed kidney food to raw or whatever boutique kibble is getting 5 stars on DFA this week. Thoughtless comments like that can hurt dogs, so please take a second and think before you rattle off such sweepingly aggressive statements.
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I didn't feel the need to contradict the earlier post about what Hills does for vets because it's largely accurate with a few distortions (the vet students don't sell the donated food for personal profit; the university sells it to fund programs).

However, this is irresponsible to the point of being dangerous. Just because you can't tell the difference by reading the back of a bag doesn't mean there isn't a difference. For some dogs, the difference between chronic illness and solid health is a prescription food. In a small number of cases, it's life or death.

It's breathtakingly irresponsible and arrogant to come on a forum and say that prescription foods are a scam and that the foods that you personally approve of are going to be better every time. Just imagine what could happen if somebody took you seriously and switched their sick dog from vet-prescribed kidney food to raw or whatever boutique kibble is getting 5 stars on DFA this week. Thoughtless comments like that can hurt dogs, so please take a second and think before you rattle off such sweepingly aggressive statements.
Well said, thank you for expressing so well what so many of us are thinking!
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I would have been spitting had I read that comment and didn't see anyone else respond to it.

There is a HUGE difference between feeding a dog with a chronic or serious health issue regular food and feeding him a prescription food. We had a golden with renal failure (only 1 failing kidney, the other shriveled up like a nut) live an extra 6 months with us after N-stage diagnosis because of Hills Prescription kibble.

And our collie (IBS) is still with us today because we are feeding him RC prescription kibble. He can eat regular food now and then, but after a while his problem will inevitably flare up.

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I didn't feel the need to contradict the earlier post about what Hills does for vets because it's largely accurate with a few distortions (the vet students don't sell the donated food for personal profit; the university sells it to fund programs).

However, this is irresponsible to the point of being dangerous. Just because you can't tell the difference by reading the back of a bag doesn't mean there isn't a difference. For some dogs, the difference between chronic illness and solid health is a prescription food. In a small number of cases, it's life or death.

It's breathtakingly irresponsible and arrogant to come on a forum and say that prescription foods are a scam and that the foods that you personally approve of are going to be better every time. Just imagine what could happen if somebody took you seriously and switched their sick dog from vet-prescribed kidney food to raw or whatever boutique kibble is getting 5 stars on DFA this week. Thoughtless comments like that can hurt dogs, so please take a second and think before you rattle off such sweepingly aggressive statements.
If you have a chronic illness do you buy a perscription diet? No, you make the nessesary changes in your diet to keep yourself healthy. At least that way you have more controll on what you feed your dog


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If you have a chronic illness do you buy a perscription diet? No, you make the nessesary changes in your diet to keep yourself healthy. At least that way you have more controll on what you feed your dog


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Actually, yes. When my husband was in the hospital he was prescribed a diabetic diet. The hospital would not deter from that diet, period.

Because he is human and has the ability and means to control his own diet he doesn't always follow that diet. It honestly, would be so much easier if he could just eat a pre-made diet daily to cover his needs.


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If you have a chronic illness do you buy a perscription diet? No, you make the nessesary changes in your diet to keep yourself healthy. At least that way you have more controll on what you feed your dog
If you're in something like kidney failure, you're given a strict prescription diet. People don't eat kibble, so you can't buy it in a bag at the store, but yes, you're given a strict diet. It's not just a few adjustments to your regular diet.
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I never said just Afew adjustments to your regular diet, I'm saying find a good food that was made specialy for victims of kidney failure, not some corn filled perscription diet. There are tons that are specialty foods and aren't called perscription diets


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