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I would never feed science diet again. I used to feed science diet up till a year and a half ago. Did not do a thing for my dogs, but of course, a lot of vets push it and when I was going through the veterinary technician program years ago, the food reps from Hills and Iams both came to give a class on pet nutrition. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? I have nothing against some of the prescription diets from Hills however. There are not a lot of prescription diets to chose from if your pet is sick and the Hills prescription diets work for a lot of health issues i.e. k/d, l/d, i/d etc.

I am not familiar with the food brand you are asking about, sorry.
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Nature's Variety Instick Raw Boost

I have a 8 month golden retriever. She was diagnosed with Campylobacter Infection a week ago. This comes from raw chicken. I started feeding her Nature's Variety instinct Chicken Meal with Raw Boost. This is the only raw she was ever given. She is now on 14 days of Erythromycin. I would be very careful about feeding this food. I have contacted the Manufacturer and am waiting to hear back from them. She is no longer eating this food. She is back on Nature's Domain. Nature's Variety was on my Vet's list of preferred foods.
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I have a 8 month golden retriever. She was diagnosed with Campylobacter Infection a week ago. This comes from raw chicken. I started feeding her Nature's Variety instinct Chicken Meal with Raw Boost. This is the only raw she was ever given. She is now on 14 days of Erythromycin. I would be very careful about feeding this food. I have contacted the Manufacturer and am waiting to hear back from them. She is no longer eating this food. She is back on Nature's Domain. Nature's Variety was on my Vet's list of preferred foods.
Campylobacter can come from anywhere. Its a bacterial infection. Could come from dirt your dog walks through and licks his/her paws after, could come from feces that your dog walked through then licked his/her paws, could come from raw meat, raw vegetables, water...even your counter top. Its not JUST from raw meat. Dogs who are infected with this bacteria will shed it into their feces. Its common in younger dogs because their immune system is not fully developed.

Natures Domain is made by Diamond Pet Foods. While I am not concerned about their recent salmonella recall I am concerned about the fact they had a melamine recall a number of years back.

Dogs small chance of getting sick from salmonella.....
Dogs getting liver/kidney problems causing them to shut down killing them.....

Ill choose the first one. I already lost one puppy to the recall, so I am very careful what I feed
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Thank you for the additional information on the Infection. It is odd though that it happened when I opened a new bag of the Chicken Raw boost.

Can you send me a PM an let me know what you feed your dog? You seem very knowledgeable and I am at a loss as what to feed her.
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Thank you for the additional information on the Infection. It is odd though that it happened when I opened a new bag of the Chicken Raw boost.

Can you send me a PM an let me know what you feed your dog? You seem very knowledgeable and I am at a loss as what to feed her.
I feed Annamaet Salcha. I was stuck between GO, Eukanuba and Annamaet. I openly admit what I feed I personally do not give a crap what people think anymore about my food choice. I used to be a food snob, but when you have a dog with so many issues you learn to open your selection and I have since learned many...MANY things about dog food. I will PM you still, have a few other suggestions.
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When considering Premium foods I think they are all divided into Science or Nature. Some would add Holistic as a category but I wouldn't consider a food holistic that wasn't natural. I would never pick a food other than a "natural". I have done a ton of research about processing and synthetic vitamins and hormones and the GI effects on the body. I just don't think dogs do as well with foods that are over processed. That said, I worry about under-processing too. I feed Natural Choice because IMO is the best of nature and science.

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When considering Premium foods I think they are all divided into Science or Nature. Some would add Holistic as a category but I wouldn't consider a food holistic that wasn't natural. I would never pick a food other than a "natural". I have done a ton of research about processing and synthetic vitamins and hormones and the GI effects on the body. I just don't think dogs do as well with foods that are over processed. That said, I worry about under-processing too. I feed Natural Choice because IMO is the best of nature and science.
Sounds good. I am going to rush out to my local pet food store today and buy a couple bags.

PS. Based on your "ton" of research, please tell us which premium foods are over processed and which ones are under processed. Is Natural Choice the only premium food which is processed just the right amount?

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Sounds good. I am going to rush out to my local pet food store today and buy a couple bags.

PS. Based on your "ton" of research, please tell us which premium foods are over processed and which ones are under processed. Is Natural Choice the only premium food which is processed just the right amount?
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I don't like the Science Diet. I was told that the only classes that vets take on nutrition in vet school is an elective and it is taught by the major pet food companies like SD. They are given an incentive to sell it before they even become vets.
This is a myth--vets don't get kickbacks for selling Science Diet. While I don't feed SD as a primary diet for my dogs, I have no problem using their prescription diets when warranted. That being said, you have to give some props to company for at least getting their foot in the door to discussion nutrition with vet students who otherwise wouldn't be exposed to it.
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This is a myth--vets don't get kickbacks for selling Science Diet. While I don't feed SD as a primary diet for my dogs, I have no problem using their prescription diets when warranted. That being said, you have to give some props to company for at least getting their foot in the door to discussion nutrition with vet students who otherwise wouldn't be exposed to it.
Vets get paid commission, if they push this food, they make money off of it, period.
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