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post #31 of 52 (permalink) Old 02-15-2013, 01:07 PM
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I haven't seen Evan's video to which you are referring to, so my comments may not be right on target, however I have put a few dogs through basics and believe that I know the stage of training which you were watching. That pup is most likely lagging behind with his tail tucked because of his uncertainty, not because he's been "hit" with a stimulation or anticipating such. He's just trying to figure out what to do ... and that comes very quickly. Once the pup figures out what's going on, the tail comes back out and his head comes back up.
The collar is a marvelous training tool, which, in the hands of a decent or better trainer, is far, far more gentle on the dogs than the training tactics used pre-collar (I was there, pre-collar, so I know from experience, not from hearsay).
I have J.L.Free's book, proudly displayed on the coffee table ... right were it belongs. For an even better read from that era, check out Charles Morgan on Retrievers (I think that's the title) ... great photos and philosophy.
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Sorry - it is called Smart Fetch video. If I remember correctly it is on the second DVD, you are walking the puppy from one stick to another. I was planning to watch it again this weekend, Rose likes to watch it as well and I will pinpoint it.

Wouldn't it be nice if I can just play the video all day long while I am at work and let her learn on her own!

I am getting ready to get your Smartwork in the Field and Definitive Casting to get an idea of what to prepare in the future while we work on the fetch basics. I really like the way you explain everything before and while you are training. It makes it easier too, to combine with what has been read and say - ahhh this is what it means!


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I have J.L.Free's book, proudly displayed on the coffee table ... right were it belongs. For an even better read from that era, check out Charles Morgan on Retrievers (I think that's the title) ... great photos and philosophy.
That's it, indeed! And it's a true classic that has far more to do with training than the "Free" book. My copy is signed by D.L. Walters. Wouldn't dream of parting with it!

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You say DL Walters? I have the collection of RA Wolters. Would love to look both of them up. Such great info here!


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You say DL Walters? I have the collection of RA Wolters. Would love to look both of them up. Such great info here!
Yes, D.L. Walters, the late Hall of Fame pro and winner of two Narional Open's. RA Wolters was a writer, but not within a mile of the dog man D.L. was. His books are well written though.

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Next week we will be doing another preserve hunt. We will once again be taking someone who has never been pheasant hunting. My friend shoots ducks and will travel to do so, he has been to Alaska to hunt bear, but he has never been pheasant hunting. AND he owns a golden.

Buffy and I will show him where he has gone wrong!
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Another master pass for Fisher today! He had a nearly flawless first series (pinned interrupted triple marks and 2 whistled the blind), and ran FIRST dog this morning for the 2nd series water, 8:00 a.m. and 31 degrees out!! No problem for Fishie he jumped in and got his birdies (2 whistled tricky over the point, out of sight blind), when he got out of the water each time, steam was coming off him! 3rd series was a mess but whatever, he brought back 3 birds and it sorta looked the same for everyone else (3 marks falling within about 30 yards of each other....). GOOOO Fishie!
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Congratulations! Keep it up.
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Good job Fisher!
31 degrees? You can get him to run when it's that warm? Tito likes it better a bit cooler.



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We haven't been training, 30" snow last weekend. Paw freeze temps.
Gladys went to field class last week allowed to make up missed sessions from puppy break.
She remembered "run by" albeit confused, she did better than the other dogs.
We kept a puppy, doing the fun throw the paint roller in the hallway stuff, shoot the capgun in the house (she actually came running to see what it was!) No more wing, too overexciting .. she will be going on the daycare bus soon. I've always had this thing about training them myself but I couldn't keep this puppy w/out help ..so .. I do trust our trainer to read the dog and be fair.


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