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I find the "drop it" command to be one of the most useful ones he knows. For example, putting away his own toys which is a combination of the commands "take it", "go", and "drop it".
Also good for when he has something, like my shoe, and I see him from across the room and don't want to get out of my chair to go get it from him, I just tell him "drop it" and then "leave it". Or if I want the shoe, "bring it". He has never chewed on a shoe, but he does tend to carry them around the house, making them hard to locate when I want them!
On the other hand, if I send him to get the remote, or my cell phone, for example, I do NOT NOT NOT want him to drop it on the floor. Hence the command "out" is pretty useful, too.
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You frame the context of commands during training. They certainly recognize when you reach for the fetch object that they do not release it until the command is given. That's one situation. Using the same command, aka "Drop", mine release and remote drop as commanded, and they understand that context because of the training situation. Honest; it's not the word, it's the training.

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I was wondering if you all would mind sharing how often you train and how long a training session might be. I'm sure seasons have something to do with it too.

Normally we train outside once or twice a week in the winter. Those training sessions are short less than 1/2 hour each. My girl is only 6 months old. Then indoors we have one training session for hunt on Saturday for 2 hours. Then we start obedience class tonight for 1 hour. Just curious what everyone else does.
I can usually train least two days a week, try my hardest to get in three days, and occasionally get a bonus forth day.
The session length depends on how many dogs are running. We usually do some sort of drill, and then a set-up. After which we decide if we want to do something else or not. I have been training in small groups lately, just one or two other people. We try and decided what we are going to do before we get there. For example, I'm training tomorrow and I already know we are going to do walking singles and a lining drill.
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I find the "drop it" command to be one of the most useful ones he knows. For example, putting away his own toys which is a combination of the commands "take it", "go", and "drop it".
Also good for when he has something, like my shoe, and I see him from across the room and don't want to get out of my chair to go get it from him, I just tell him "drop it" and then "leave it". Or if I want the shoe, "bring it". He has never chewed on a shoe, but he does tend to carry them around the house, making them hard to locate when I want them!
On the other hand, if I send him to get the remote, or my cell phone, for example, I do NOT NOT NOT want him to drop it on the floor. Hence the command "out" is pretty useful, too.
He's a good boy.
I have "leave it" and "give" but have never thought to have a remote drop. How did you teach that?
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Wheeeee I am so happy. I got to go to the trainers last week, and we are going tomorrow. It's supposed to be partly sunny and near 60 degrees!!!! This is mud Michigan folks in JANUARY!!!!

My trainer got very sick before Thanksgiving, I got there once after but he didn't look too good after a couple more weeks in the hospital he is on the mend. Started training again the week before Christmas. I'm so glad he seems better.

Last week there was a huge crowd for "snow camp". We just ran a series of simple doubles and singles. It's what Gabby needed, to run for bumpers. She was still relaxed on Sunday when we went for a walk. Hopefully the crowd won't be "too" big for our warm day tomorrow.

We are taking Quinn too but she can't work yet. She is doing well post op. she is 3 months post op today. We figure she can go hang out and work some more on patience. She is walking about a half hour a day, exercises twice a day, physical therapy 2 times a week. It's coming. She looks fantastic but we want to take it slow, we want her strong and hopefully hold off #2 knee as long as possible.


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Once they understand that "drop it" means let go of it and let it hit the ground, the remote drop is very easy. Just back off from them a little at a time, and over time they will be able to do it from quite far away.



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Something else you might try is a tidbit a friend brought back from a Bridget Carlson seminar. Bridget apparently uses it in both a field and obedience context. She teaches the dog to scooch back an inch when the it command is repeated. So not only does sit mean plant your butt, it also means, you move, you twitch, you move away from your desired bird, you have to move back--a little negative momentum to counter that self-sending/nearly breaking trend. And that is something you can use on the line in a test once you are released!

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Haven't used a stick yet as the pinch collar is working quite well. You know now that you mention it though, I have used the stick in the past for exactly this situation except I started with hand thrown bumpers in the yard rather than marks, to keep any poor attitude from creeping into marks. Anyhow thanks for the reminder.

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We are in a training layoff right now as Breeze came in season last Sunday and will be bred later this week. Her daughter Bonnie also came in season now this week, so my girls are all a bit hormonal, and my boys don't know where their brains are! Once the craziness of running around to get progesterone run, and pick up shipments and getting the breeding done is over we will get back to refining Bonnie's handling. Miss Breeze certainly took her time and messed up my plans--pups will be due in March, which means no Alabama training trip for us this spring.

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Shelly, sure wish you guys were closer. I'm looking for a teaser right now, want to do another freeze on the monster boy....



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Thanks Barb - After "pulling teeth" with DH whom I still cannot get back into training mode, we decided to go with NO - for no touch at all, "Leave it" put in our hand and "Drop" to drop everything in the mouth to the ground.
That little brat after only two days of training has gotten it. Maybe she was just happy to get back in training after the vet scare we had over the weekend.


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