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A really good day at Dan's!
We went today instead of tomorrow, because it was 50 degrees, sunny, although windy. But 50 degrees in CHICAGO in JANUARY??? Unheard of!
Did some lining and casting drills, just to be sure he's still okay on them. We're still not running blinds with him, but both are convinced he's not forgotten the skills.
Then some really hard marks, his hunts were wonderful. Long, thorough, intelligent hunts. Again, quite pleased. He did have some trouble with over running the shorter marks angled in from the gun after running longer ones angled out. Something to work on next week.
The best part was the upland hunting. I can now officially say Tito is steady to flush. No whistle, no command. Bird goes, if he doesn't catch it on the takeoff (which he is pretty good at, btw) butt hits the ground. It was so exciting for me!
And now I have 4 nice cleaned chukkars to cook

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CH Rosewood Little Giant, UDX VER RA SH MXP MJP VCX WCX CCA CGC FFX-OG (born 3-10-2007), also UCH HR UUD UJJ URO1 UHIT a.k.a. "Tito" (the Tito Monster)

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Gibson's Golden Guy, CD, CGC, TDI ( 01-31-1998 - 01-02-2012) a.k.a. "Toby", "HRH"

It has finally gotten better here and half our yard is no longer icy. So we took Rose outside after working with her in the house with the paint roller - she did great - took it great, held it (getting great - she is not quite steady) and gave it on the "leave it" command.
Now, outside she stays good and waits for the marks, brings the bumper back to your left, around you (which drives DH crazy :p - I instilled in poor Rose that every time she comes to me she goes around and sits at my left) but then she drops it, she doesn't hold it to wait for the "leave it" command. grrrrrrr I have been munching all day on how to correct this.

Claudia, just curious, if you use "leave it" for her to give something up, what do you use if she is to leave something alone, i.e., not pick it up at all?
I use "leave it" to mean "don't even think of touching that".
I use "out" to mean, "put it in my hand"
I use "drop it" to mean "drop it onto the ground"

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Gibson's Golden Girl, CD, CGC, TDI (born 3-20-1997), a.k.a. "Tiny"

CH Rosewood Little Giant, UDX VER RA SH MXP MJP VCX WCX CCA CGC FFX-OG (born 3-10-2007), also UCH HR UUD UJJ URO1 UHIT a.k.a. "Tito" (the Tito Monster)

and my heart dog
Gibson's Golden Guy, CD, CGC, TDI ( 01-31-1998 - 01-02-2012) a.k.a. "Toby", "HRH"

I was wondering if you all would mind sharing how often you train and how long a training session might be. I'm sure seasons have something to do with it too.

Normally we train outside once or twice a week in the winter. Those training sessions are short less than 1/2 hour each. My girl is only 6 months old. Then indoors we have one training session for hunt on Saturday for 2 hours. Then we start obedience class tonight for 1 hour. Just curious what everyone else does.

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Very seasonal....we try to train once a week, at Dan's for 1 hour. It's a private lesson, so it's pretty intense as he's kept moving the whole time. Other than that, we also do an agility private lesson (1/2 hour) once every-other-week.
It would be much better if we trained more. My bad.

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Gibson's Golden Girl, CD, CGC, TDI (born 3-20-1997), a.k.a. "Tiny"

CH Rosewood Little Giant, UDX VER RA SH MXP MJP VCX WCX CCA CGC FFX-OG (born 3-10-2007), also UCH HR UUD UJJ URO1 UHIT a.k.a. "Tito" (the Tito Monster)

and my heart dog
Gibson's Golden Guy, CD, CGC, TDI ( 01-31-1998 - 01-02-2012) a.k.a. "Toby", "HRH"

Thanks Barb - I actually use "Leave it" with everything, Leave It when the cat is trying to get her attention, "leave it" when the squirrels are running in the back yard, "leave it" when we walk in the neighborhood and other dogs are around or people running, and "leave it" when she has something in her mouth including what she is not supposed to have or the paint roller, bumper etc.
But the problem is she drops it before I can even say "leave it". She just drops at my feet on my left.
I will try to figure out how to teach "out" to put it in my hand. Any input is sincerely appreciate it.

Once or twice per day, 3 days per week. About 15 minutes per dog on most drills and exercises.

Choose whatever word you like as a command or cue. Dogs do not speak English. Keep it simple; no sentences if you're going to require compliance. To convey that I don't want a dog to pick something up when he's reaching for it, it's "No". That's what 'no' means; don't do that.

To release a fetch object, it's "Drop"; whether in my hand, or for remote drop - same command. Keep it simple.

EvanG

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I taught the distinction between "drop it" and "out" because of the obedience ring. I want him to understand he needs to put the glove, article, dumbbell, in my hand, not just open his mouth and release it. It's worked well carrying it over into field, too, as "out" means put the bird gently in my hand.
I did it by teaching the "hold" command first. Then I would gently grab whatever was in his mouth, and tell him "out". Generally he was quite ready to release it anyway, so it was natural for him to just release it when I said "out".
I taught "drop it" with the tennis ball in the yard. When he comes back with the ball, he has to drop it at my feet...or it won't get thrown again, which in his world would be a major disaster. So I would say "drop it", and he would, and the reinforcement would be another retrieve. It transferred over to other things easily.

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Gibson's Golden Girl, CD, CGC, TDI (born 3-20-1997), a.k.a. "Tiny"

CH Rosewood Little Giant, UDX VER RA SH MXP MJP VCX WCX CCA CGC FFX-OG (born 3-10-2007), also UCH HR UUD UJJ URO1 UHIT a.k.a. "Tito" (the Tito Monster)

and my heart dog
Gibson's Golden Guy, CD, CGC, TDI ( 01-31-1998 - 01-02-2012) a.k.a. "Toby", "HRH"

Rose would leave the paint roller quite quickly - she hates that thing in her mouth. I did the take it, hold it and Leave it.
She may actually know that I would not want dead birds in my hand and she is practicing in advance by just dropping it to the ground.

Will work also on Drop it and out.

Thank you Evan - I only use short commands. The full sentence story telling is when she lays with me in bed - otherwise is boot camp command.