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Old 12-01-2012, 02:18 PM
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:23 PM
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Laundry and decorating the house ( I won't put up my Christmas decorations until it is December!). Dogs are going stir crazy but I am finally getting better. After two weeks of hacking and coughing the doc finally decided there must be something bacterial going on and put me an antibiotics!
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:30 PM
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Hi there.
Hope you don't mind if I join in. I've started my little girl (5 month old) 5 weeks ago on field training. We have 5 puppies from the litter that get together with a trainer that specializes in field goldens. Today we worked on general obedience, platform (place) and singles. They are all doing so well. We are super excited to see their progress. We discussed bringing in the starter pistol for background noise next week. We're hoping for the temperatures to warm up a bit, so we can get back outside. It's been down around zero or below lately, so getting outside for a lot of work is tough. So we've been training in my shop. Some of us signed up for a Connie Cleveland seminar in February. I'm hoping my girl is mature enough for the class. We did get a lecture about planning for WC test in August that our trainer is running for the club. I hope Lucy is ready by then.

For this week I'm taking Lucy back to retail stores for stays and recalls. She did really well last time. Dogs always amaze me on how smart they are.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:00 PM
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Welcome Alaska, good to see you here!!

Tito may never run another hunt test. He's decided he'd much rather REALLY hunt instead of run hunt tests.

We went to Dan's today, and set up some marks. It's the first marks Tito has seen in about a month. The first one was just a pretty easy single, but he lost it in the sun. When he got out there, he apparently decided that, since he didn't see anything go down, he probably was supposed to be hunting up a bird for us to shoot. So he went off hunting in the adjacent cover.
We got that problem fixed, tossed a few more singles for him which he did quite well on (once he saw the birds go down!) and then just decided to go hunting. It is, after all, a hunt club. So Dan took Tito pheasant hunting for a while, I went along for the walk as it's 60 degrees here today! Tito got to flush a couple of pheasants, Dan hit one really hard, long shot (had to spin and shoot behind himself), Tito retrieved the bird, and the day ended up glorious.
Tito says forget the hunt test crap.
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Wednesday trained with the Pro.
First we ran a water blind that had started with a 30 yards of land then a small splashing pond with blind across on the other side. Also to the right of the line was a channel of water that fed the pond. Winter took a straight line to the water but I could see she wanted to skirt the water, whistle, one verbal back cast that she took though the water and she picked up the blind.
Then we turn around and ran the marks. A double hand thrown from in line blinds. The memory mark was thrown from the far blind, left to right at about 80 yards. 15 yards of land, 65 yards of splashing water with a small 10 yard swim in the middle of it.The 40 yard Go bird was thrown from the close blind, right to left and land on land just off the pond. Then a long 170 yard land blind that skimmed by the go bird AOF and had some roll to it.
We wanted the dogs to run a straight line to the Memory bird and not fade to the left, toward the blind that the mark came from. The going was easier to the left which could make them fade too. Also you need to made sure they didn't try to cheat on the way back.
On the Go bird I was told, if her line takes her into the water to let her have it. The reason given was that we teach them that to get into water or stay in the water is the usually the correct choice. So in this case, if they get in the water give it to them.
Winter is at the stage where we are still learning tougher concepts, so we ran the long memory bird as a single first. Winter took a really good line across the pond and hit the other side but then over ran the mark and put up a big hunt. She did work it out without help. On the way out you could tell she took a look at the first blind and the person sitting behind it as she went by. Then we ran the double, she stepped on the Go bird, had the same line out to the Memory bird but still over ran and got behind it. However, she checked down quickly and picked it up. No cheating on either pickup on the long bird. On the land blind, she carried good momentum and held her line passed the Go bird AOF but started fading left with the topography as she got out to about 140 yards. Two whistles later she picked up the blind. I'm still seeing occasional looping whistle sits and in fact on the first whistle on this blind she did a small loop. The second whistle was cleaner. This looping always happens at distance. So we talked about having me give her a light nick with every whistle sit for the next couple of weeks. I'm to very carefully watch her momentum and if I see any loss of it I need to stop and give the Pro a call.

On Friday, a friend and I did a mark blind drill. The drill has her run a blind that backsides a mark, then under the arc, and then between the two marks. I still am teaching this so we run the blind, then throw the mark and then run the blind again. She still isn't perfect so we will keep running it this way. When she is perfect I will throw the mark then run the blind. Next we will did a couple of singles, one that had them working across a hill and going through a wall of cover. The second one was water, land, water. The entry was down hill so Winter carried the speed into a huge water entry, very cute. After she picked up the mark, we ran an angled entry down the same hill for a water blind. I had to call her back for a bad line but she nailed it on the second attempt. It was sunny and in the 50's so we finished up with a shoreline blind.
Unfortunately next week is looking bad for getting out and training.

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This coming saturday is our first Upland training day. I signed up for 2 chuckers and I got 2 chuckers ofr my son. I hope they shoot them so I can use them for training they cost $11.00 each I hate to have them fly away at that price.
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Sometimes having them fly away teaches the best lesson of all.....you have to come BACK if the bird gets away!

I got this in an email from my good friend that we went hunting with, and I thought I needed to share it:

"....We may play the games in the summer months knowing what is expected of our dogs, but come hunting season, the true nature of the beast tells us who really is the HUNTER and who is the STUDENT...."
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Had both guys in Finished this weekend, why I even bother with HRC I don't know.
The good was I felt more comfortable with the handler's gun and really didn't have any trouble with it. It didn't mess up and I shot at everything I was supposed to at the correct time.
Bad news is I continue to be frustrated with HRC finished setups and cannot wrap my brain around why UKC as an organization supports it. No noise at the mark (gun/duck call) means dogs miss SEEING marks. When you are "hunting" and your dog doesn't see a mark you can handle up a storm -- that's called a blind. But yet with no attention getting devices in the field, dogs miss marks and are penalized for handling. BOTH days Fisher didn't see a mark in the first series, even though he swung with the gun barrel, didn't headswing, was steady, and was actively looking for the mark. Unfair to the dog. Today it was the 2nd bird of the land triple, after swinging almost 180 to the right of the flyer, 175 yard mark with no sound. You know how many dogs in the field of 25 SAW and then proceeded directly to the mark? ONE. One dog. TWO others put up enormous hunt and eventually found that bird. The rest were handled or picked up. I handled Fisher on it the second he started to deviate (since he didn't even see the mark), basically running it as a blind.
I first ran a few weekends of finished tests before I ever ran Fisher in a master tests, I hated them, same deal, dog can't see the @#$#$*&ing marks! This past April I ran started & seasoned with Harvin & Slater but didn't put Fisher in finished, and guess what the tests were like cute little master tests, if the dog can count to three and run a decent blind you'd be OK, now I enter again and it's back to ridiculous. I'm not looking for handouts and yes I want a challenging test and to be graded strictly but when the dog doesn't see the mark because of the set up -- how can you judge them?!?!?! /vent #theregoes$400
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HRC is very different, I agree. I think dogs who are used to running AKC have a hard time in HRC. Dogs who are used to HRC find it easier to switch to AKC because of all the commotion in the field.
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I belong to both clubs now but this summer I watched my first AKC hunt test and I thought it was easy compared to the set-ups we had for the HRC dogs. I have heard it both ways tho the AKC is easy the HRC is easy I guess it depends on the judges and the fields they have to work with. I am going to try my hand at AKC this summer.
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