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Old 04-07-2009, 06:28 PM
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Pigeon toed?

I did some research because it appears that she looks more pigeon toed than I noticed before. I found an article online that indicated that if a dog is pigeon toed it is a symptom of patella luxation.

When she was 6 months old her vet did x-rays and said that everything looked fine (but I think they were looking at her hips) would they have noticed at that point if she had patella luxation?

She runs fine outside and is very fast. But the pigeon toed stance is noticeable when she is standing or walking. She is due to go into the vet soon for her 1 year checkup and I can ask her vet then too. The last thing I need is another thing she needs surgery on .... Thanks, I appreciate it!
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Is this her front feet or her rear?
Toeing in (pigeon toes) in the front is usually the result of a dog with a poor front assembly - mainly elbows out. It is not often seen in the rear, but could be either hips or knees if it is, or even a minor bowing of the legs. This doesn't sound like knees (patellas) if she is not having any problems moving or is not in pain.
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Is this her front feet or her rear?
Toeing in (pigeon toes) in the front is usually the result of a dog with a poor front assembly - mainly elbows out. It is not often seen in the rear, but could be either hips or knees if it is, or even a minor bowing of the legs. This doesn't sound like knees (patellas) if she is not having any problems moving or is not in pain.
Sorry, it's her rear ... she doesn't seem to be in pain and I looked at videos of dogs with patella problems and she definitely doesn't look like that. It is most noticeable when she is walking.

So it could be her knees or hips? Is it possible that it could be something that has developed since she was 6 months old? Because she had x-rays done at 6 months and the vet said everything looked good.

She's due to go into the vet for 1 year vaccinations and I'll be sure to mention it and see what the vet thinks. Thanks!
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Sorry, it's her rear ... she doesn't seem to be in pain and I looked at videos of dogs with patella problems and she definitely doesn't look like that. It is most noticeable when she is walking.

So it could be her knees or hips? Is it possible that it could be something that has developed since she was 6 months old? Because she had x-rays done at 6 months and the vet said everything looked good.

She's due to go into the vet for 1 year vaccinations and I'll be sure to mention it and see what the vet thinks. Thanks!

Bow legs (which would cause her to toe in) could be either knees or hips and she could still be asymptomatic, and it can worsen with age.
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Thanks, I will mention it to the vet and see what she says. She is a wonderful dog and temperament wise I couldn't ask for a better dog. Unfortunately, I think the person I got her from might not have been the most reputable. I love her anyways and in the future I will not make the same mistake again ...
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Thanks, I will mention it to the vet and see what she says. She is a wonderful dog and temperament wise I couldn't ask for a better dog. Unfortunately, I think the person I got her from might not have been the most reputable. I love her anyways and in the future I will not make the same mistake again ...
Even if there is a physiological or genetic problem, the fact that she is asymptomatic is good. And it could be simply the way she is built and not be caused by either.
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