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Old 01-31-2009, 08:01 PM
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HELP!! now, dog ate baking soda and cornstarch??!!

This afternoon we made a recipe (for the kids, it is like playdough), we used 3 cups baking soda, and 1 cup cornstarch, to 1 cup water, placed on stove to boil (stir to consistency of mashed potatoes)

LET COOL....

Then the kids played with this mixture...made figurines.

I DID NOT realize my 7 month old dog, got into our living room (where it is off limits to her (a door is always closed)....but she got in (door was open)...and GOT a figurine of this mixture

I called the vet, he does not seem too concerned.

BUT I read online this is highly toxic if eaten in large amounts.

SHE got about a handfull (remember the mixture is only baking soda and cornstarch), and she got a handful of this and ate it.

SHE seems to be wanting to drink a lot, which I am not encouraging as I worry of levening the baking soda....

SHE seems bloated.....

WILL she be ok???

HELP PLEASE need guidance!!

thanks, mom to maggie...
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Old 01-31-2009, 08:30 PM
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Call animal poison control. There is a 50.00 or 60.00 fee, but it's worth the peace of mind.

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Baking Powder and Baking Soda


Although not really foods, baking powder and baking soda are common items found in the kitchen. They are both leavening agents, used in baked goods to create a gas, which causes doughs and batters to rise.
Baking soda is sodium bicarbonate. Baking powder combines baking soda with an acid of some kind, usually cream of tartar, sodium aluminum sulphate or calcium acid phosphate, or a combination of the three.
If your dog eats a large amount of either of these powders, he can suffer from electrolyte changes, and congestive heart failure.
Keep baking soda and baking powder out of your dog's reach. If you spill some on the floor, clean it up immediately.
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Call animal poison control. There is a 50.00 or 60.00 fee, but it's worth the peace of mind.

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PLEASE do this, especially if she seems bloated. That can be very dangerous and progresses quickly.
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ugh!

I did call my vet, and spoke to her. She told me she should be fine...

now I am freaking out.... my vet said she should be fine...but what i read on the internet she can get some major reactions, heart failure, muscle spasms...etc...she is wanting to drink water right now....but I am scared to give her any....omg!.
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ugh!

I did call my vet, and spoke to her. She told me she should be fine...

now I am freaking out.... my vet said she should be fine...but what i read on the internet she can get some major reactions, heart failure, muscle spasms...etc...she is wanting to drink water right now....but I am scared to give her any....omg!.
The Internet can be a scary place. Reliable sites are pretty much obligated to share every possible situation and outcome. If you are worried, I'd call APC. They are really helpful and they can put your mind at ease.
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I would think that water mixed with baking soda would create a large amount of gas. One of my dogs (a beagle/dachshund) many years ago ate some bread that didn't rise, and she had the worst gas I've even seen. She was fine, although she was distended for a while, but no bloat.

If you want a second opinion to confirm your vet's, I'd call the poison control center just to be on the safe side.
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ok...i was outside with the dog...she just had a big poop (a normal one)...then she had a huge diareah poop.

...she seems to be doing better now. should I give her more water?

I did not call ACP, I did call my vet again and she assured me the dog would be fine...

SO I am thinking I should trust in her. Maggie is walking around and wagging her tail and all happy and looking chipper (compared to just an hour ago when she was laying down and looking glum) it seems as though the poop she did helped...(maybe upset stomach) and now she is feeling relieved.

I am thinking we will be alright...thank you, for your prompt emails

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The bloating would have been from the baking soda reacting with her stomach acid to produce gas. There was only a little bit of soda, so once it's all reacted her tummy should settle. Teaspoon amounts of baking soda can actually be given for too much stomach acid in humans (never heard of it in dogs)

I would let her drink, a little at a time, to help her flush out the excess salt she produced when the baking soda reacted with the hydrochloric acid in her stomach. She's going to feel thirsty like you do when you eat too much salty food. Then remember she'll need to pee more too.
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SO I am thinking I should trust in her. Maggie is walking around and wagging her tail and all happy and looking chipper (compared to just an hour ago when she was laying down and looking glum) it seems as though the poop she did helped...(maybe upset stomach) and now she is feeling relieved.
OK, I don't want to sound like an alarmist. If your working under the guidance of a vet you trust who has advised you to do some watchful waiting that's what you need to do. I'm not a vet, nor do I play one on the forum :-) I would advise you to do two things - first figure out the location and phone number of the local emergency vet - or your vet if they come in for emergencies. If she does get bloat you need to act quickly. Second know what the symptoms of obstruction or bloat are...I've copied and pasted both. I hope you both have a good evening...hopefully all figurines will pass...It is possible that the mixture is old enough to be basically inert...in which case the danger is blockage - depending how much it was chewed :-)

http://www.globalspan.net/bloat.htm
Bloat Symptoms
Typical symptoms often include some (but not necessarily all) of the following, according to the links below. Unfortunately, from the onset of the first symptoms you have very little time (sometimes minutes, sometimes hours) to get immediate medical attention for your dog. Know your dog and know when it's not acting right.
Attempts to vomit (usually unsuccessful); may occur every 5-30 minutes This seems to be one of the most common symptoms & has been referred to as the "hallmark symptom""Unsuccessful vomiting" means either nothing comes up or possibly just foam and/or mucous comes up Doesn't act like usual self Perhaps the earliest warning sign and may be the only sign that almost always occursWe've had several reports that dogs who bloated asked to go outside in the middle of the night. If this is combined with frequent attempts to vomit, and if your dog doesn't typically ask to go outside in the middle of the night, bloat is a very real possibility. Significant anxiety and restlessness
One of the earliest warning signs and seems fairly typical
"Hunched up" or "roached up" appearance
This seems to occur fairly frequently
Lack of normal gurgling and digestive sounds in the tummy Many dog owners report this after putting their ear to their dog's tummy.If your dog shows any bloat symptoms, you may want to try this immediately. Bloated abdomen that may feel tight (like a drum)
Despite the term "bloat," many times this symptom never occurs or is not apparent
Pale or off-color gums
Dark red in early stages, white or blue in later stages
CoughingUnproductive gaggingHeavy salivating or droolingFoamy mucous around the lips, or vomiting foamy mucousUnproductive attempts to defecateWhiningPacingLicking the airSeeking a hiding placeLooking at their side or other evidence of abdominal pain or discomfortMay refuse to lie down or even sit downMay stand spread-leggedMay curl up in a ball or go into a praying or crouched positionMay attempt to eat small stones and twigsDrinking excessivelyHeavy or rapid pantingShallow breathingCold mouth membranesApparent weakness; unable to stand or has a spread-legged stance
Especially in advanced stage
Accelerated heartbeat
Heart rate increases as bloating progresses
Weak pulseCollapse

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The symptoms for an obstruction in your dogs' upper digestive system are likely to be:

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2. Drooling and lots of visible [COLOR=#0054a6! important][COLOR=#0054a6! important]saliva[/COLOR][/COLOR] due to the dog not being able to swallow the normal amount of saliva.

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thank you for the info on bloat

maggie is wanting to drink lots of water...i am worried to give her too much...so as you said to give it to her in smaller amounts.....

i am going to stay up with her and watch her.....i will let you all know...

the stuff she ate was not that old (we just made the mixture) and she ate it about five hours later....

sheesh...

anyway, I am keeping a watchful eye on her, and seeing how she goes...thanks again everyone, and thanks for posting the info on "bloat"

peace
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