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Bummed about elbow

Feeling pretty bummed out and sad for our 11 month old Miss Sadie McGee. She's had a very mild limp/hitch in her gait off/on since we got her as a puppy. Doesn't seem to slow her down or bother her in the least, and we've been very careful to try to limit too much jumping/running (although, she is a puppy). Over the last month or so, it's become a little more common for it to occur after playing fetch or even towards the end of a long walk.

The vet doesn't think it is too serious (no significant laxity or crepitus in her joint) and is thinking it is either panosteitis (sp?) or mild elbow dysplasia. He didn't think x-rays would be very helpful since it is probably mild, so he suggested doing a course of anti-inflammatories. Doesn't seem to have helped very much.

I'm not sure what to do. Poor Sadie is definitely a high energy gal, and I've been thinking about starting some agility training, but now I don't think that is a good idea. Have any of you been through this before? If this is panosteitis, I believe it can get better after they are done growing, but if it is elbow dysplasia is it just going to keep getting worse? Do I let her be a normal dog, or try to prevent further injury? I appreciate anyone's thoughts/experience.



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If this were my dog, I would get in touch with your local or regional agility club or obedience club and ask for their help getting a referral to a good rehab vet. A good one is worth driving several hours for if needed. I'd get a second opinion. Have you been in touch with your breeder? He/she will want to know and can be a good resource.


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I agree with Nolefan about getting a second opinion and contacting your dog's breeder. In your shoes I would want to know what it is - and if it's dysplasia, your breeder will want to know too.

Best of luck, it must be very worrying. I hope you get some answers.

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I would have xrays done to verify whether it's ED or Pano. And discern how bad the elbows are.

If it's Pano - the treatment you need to do is going to be diet related. And it helps having a specialist guide you on that. A low protein diet, for example.

If it's elbows causing the limping - you are looking at getting started on a maintenance type treatment plan to start with, unless the elbows are horrific.

I personally would not talk surgery until your dog is past 24 months. And that is also around the time that pano issues really go away. Per the orthopedic specialist we had with our dog - we were told at 15-18 months, we see the limping and stiffness stop. And this was the case.

In the case of our dog, our regular vets did not see evidence of pano on the legs xrays. The specialist did.

Our dog DID have elbow dysplasia, both elbows. In his case, he had OCD in the elbows, if I'm remembering it right. Chips. Caused major inflamation. It still caused limping, but not anything like when he was younger.

When he was younger, he literally could not get from one end of a room to the other without stopping and getting the weight off his front end.

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I'd opt to find out what the issue is. My little rescue started having issues. After not really making progress with time or mess I asked for an X-ray. He has hip displasia. It sucks as he was 11mo at time of dx but knowing what is going on has been very helpful. He is now on daily supplements and herbs. Excersise management. He is doing so much better in just a couple months. He will always have issues but for the most part is a happy little dog.
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Pano is easy to diagnose from radiographs. Perhaps not for a practitioner but for an ortho or a person who has lived w it and learned to see it. ED not so much. I had a girl w OFA elbow clearance but she still had ED- after a very log bout w pano.... I've wondered more than once if it were a precursor to the FCP type of ED she has (or had, I guess- stem cell therapy completely fixed her).
I wish I had gotten on the pano w her more than I did- I used crate rest and limited exercise for months- swimming mostly- and gave her anti-inflammatories (Rimadyl but not so often since she was young) and some tramadol (also not so often since I didn't want her to have no pain and injure herself more) and also a product a friend said was wonderfully helpful for her long sufferer of pano- Durlactin https://www.amazon.com/Duralactin-Ca...lement+lactose which I did not find a noticeable help but my friend's dog benefited so it may or may not be useful- worth the try for sure....

IF your dog does have pano, and later does not pass OFA elbows, would you let me know? I have been compiling a list of such dogs, anecdotal but I needed a project that felt science-y lol...ran out of calico polydactyl cats to count at the pound....
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