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4 Year old Male, Chronic UTI - Please help

I have a 4 year old male who keeps getting a UTI about every 4-6 months. I have tried the cranberry pills, switching food, etc. and nothing seems to work. He's not the best water drinker in the world so I do things to get him to drink more during the day. I think this originally started because he doesn't drink a lot so he doesn't flush his bladder enough.

He's been on Bactrim each time for 14 days which does the trick. The last time the vet took a culture and it did not show anything. He has all the classic symptoms, urgent urination, vomiting for the first few days. Once on the Bactrim he seems fine, then all is ok for a few months and back again. Usually if he has not gone out for 6 hours or more or if he hasn't drank during the day. His seem to be related to water consumption and urination.

Does anyone have any advice? He can't take amoxicillin, he's allergic.
Being on the antibiotic longer? I feel bad for him that he's going through this. I really want to get a handle on these.

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If this has been going on for several years I would find another vet. Have they done a STERILE culture? Not just sticking a cup to catch the pee but a needle injected directly into the bladder. After going through this routine twice (two different vets) I found a vet that was willing to do the sterile culture to identify the bacteria and the appropriate medication to kill it. It still took 6 weeks of medication to clear it out. We did a 2nd sterile culture to be sure the bacteria was gone. So far no return infections.
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My first thought was that you need a second opinion from a new vet. I really hope you will do this even if you have to drive to another town.


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There are a few reasons for recurring UTIs that I found. One is low thyroid so I had his thyroid checked and it was in fact low. That's been corrected. I also had a culture done but it was not a needle draw. That will be next if he gets another one.

I thought the information on the recurring UTIs was interesting. For anyone else who might want to read it, here it is:

What You Need to Know About Recurrent Urinary Tract Infections in Dogs
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Get a second opinion on the UTI's. Need to verify if the dog actually does have infections. I'm raising my eyebrows a little at the vomiting, because while I've had dogs with UTI's and bladder infections... I've never had vomiting associated with the infections. But that's probably based on where the infection actually is.

Looking it up - I see that vomiting might be associated with UTI's which affect kidneys. Which personally speaking is exclamation points and urgent to get cleared up and handled with a different vet if this has gone on so long.

With the water... might suggest switching sources of water and figuring out what might get your dog more interested in drinking.

With my Bertie - I had a young dog who wasn't a fan of drinking water. This went on for a couple years with him smelling the water and walking away. I swear at his worst, the only time he drank water was when I was pouring it - he'd drink it right from the bottle while I poured.

This problem went away with me getting a raised water station for my bedroom. The higher the water was from the floor, apparently less dog hair or dirt was getting in there.

Bertie now has no drinking issues and generally chugs just as much water as the other animals.

My next step after raised water if that didn't work was picking up a dog water fountain with a filter to keep the water clean. My only hesitation about that is I go through 1.5 gallons of water every day with 3 dogs and cat. Actually the two goldens by themselves now go through a whole gallon of water just by themselves.

***fwiw, Bertie is 4 and has never had a UTI - even with his oddball water issues. So getting the water thing addressed might not solve any issues with repeated UTI's. But it is better if the dogs are getting enough water every day.

My Jacks did have a UTI or few between 12 months and 24 months. We actually had a vet looking into investigating whether there was a physical cause for the UTI's and his related leaking issues (he'd leak a little in his sleep). Maturity helped clear the leaking issues up. He's actually currently eating the same food he ate back then so it was not related to food. He hasn't had a UTI in years...


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I read that common side effects of UTI include vomiting and never saw anything about kidneys so I will have to check that out. Thanks.

He's ok right now but if another one does show up, I am going to take him to another vet and request the needle draw culture. I think the meds need to be changed so it really gets rid of the bacteria once and for all.

I did change the water source too. I was giving him bottled water and he likes the well water better so that's what he gets now. He likes hot water too, lol. If I am running water in the tub, he gulps the warm/hot water so he gets warm water in his bowls when I fill them. Not that they stay warm for long but it's there if he wants a drink right then.
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The reason I kept searching for a vet to get the sterile culture on my new puppy is last Feb. I lost my 4 yr old golden to kidney failure. We had gone down the same path you have, go to vet... get blood & urine check... take the usual meds... return for followup test and all seemed well until the next time.

Suddenly my girl threw up... several times. We were waiting for the vet the next morning. Recently relocated so new vet, he too did the usual blood work & urine test and gave her a shot to stop the vomiting. Sadly the numbers were off the charts this time. Ultra sound showed 1 kidney enlarged and one already gone. He did the best he could but she was gone in 6 days. Both kidneys failed.

This time I wasn't taking no for an answer. The golden is very good at hiding their pain, just because you don't see symptoms doesn't mean there isn't something going on inside. IMHO do the test, if it comes back clean you at least know you did everything you could and something else is going on.
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