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Clearances and a pet Golden

Seamus is a pet - not a show dog. We got him before I was on GRF and learned about clearances, etc. His breeder has been less than helpful as far as getting us the registered names of his parents so I have no clue whether they had their clearances or not.

My questions is this - Should I have him checked - eyes, heart, hips, elbows - to ensure that he has no problems?

I only ever hear of dogs getting clearances if they are going to be bred. Is it something useful for a pet dog?

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Seamus is very handsome You don't have a pedigree for him with registered names? Glad you have been able to learn about reputable breeders and clearances here so that you are armed with knowledge next time you buy a puppy Sounds like it's safe to say your breeder doesn't do clearances or breeds dogs with failed clearances and doesn't want you to uncover anything. Too late now, but next time you won't give your hardearned money to an unethical shyster.

He should definitely have his eyes checked annually because the eye issues that Goldens are prone to can exist without being obvious to you and by the time it's clear there's a problem, the dog will have suffered a lot of pain and potentially be losing eye sight and even the eye. It's an awful thing and eye checks can catch it in time to treat it to avoid pain and sight loss. If you are a worrier, you could have his heart checked but the hips and elbows you don't need to do unless he appears to show signs of discomfort. The best thing you can do to be proactive about his hips and elbows is to discuss what his ideal weight should be with your vet. Tell your vet that Seamus came from a breeder who doesn't do clearances and you'd like to really stay on top of his weight to avoid issues. Then be hard core about regular exercise and not overfeeding so that you give him the best chance possible. Doesn't matter what the tests would show, keeping him lean is the best thing you can do for him.


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Thanks so much! Unfortunately Seamus seems to KNOW he's handsome! No, no pedigree but I'm still after the breeder to provide me with the information. Her answer is....oh you have a pet and he's healthy what do you care??? Ugh!!!! Definitely live and learn.

Seamus had a heart murmur as a young puppy (prior to 12 weeks) and then it went away. My daughter is a Veterinary Cardiologist but unfortunately not local. I will get him to an ophthalmologist to have his eyes examined. Thanks!

He is kept thin but I have a hard time getting him enough exercise. My other dog (Corgi cross) will fetch a ball and Seamus will run after him (sometimes). He also likes his flirt pole but I worry about having him race in circles..... He has no clue about fetch. Ideas to get his heart rate up????

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Kaizer's not a show dog either, but I think it's important for me to know about his hips, elbows, heart, and eyes, so I'll be getting all his clearances when he turns two this June. For me it's really about peace of mind. If I didn't get his hips/elbows/heart/eyes checked out, I'd be panicking every time he jumps too high, lands weirdly, turns too fast while running, etc. etc.
Plus, I think it'd be a nice thing to report back to the breeder, especially because this was his sire's first litter and I'm sure both my dog's breeder and his sire's breeder would like to know the results :-).

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Kaizer isn't a fan of fetching balls, but he will fetch his Chuckit Flying Squirrel for an upwards of 30 minutes, which is pretty impressive since I haven't actually spent time teaching him how to retrieve or slowly building up how long he'll retrieve for.

I've found that he's more into the game when I mix up what he's getting for me - so one day it might be that Frisbee, the next day it might be a Chuckit Fetch Wheel (it's basically a wheel), the next day it might be his Chuckit Max Glow ball, etc. etc. Can you tell Kaizer likes his Chuckit toys?

I guess my point is maybe he won't chase a ball, but he might go after something else.
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Yes, Seamus does have the Flying Squirrel. I'll have to try that. Unfortunately, he seems to run after it and then lay down to chew on it.....not retrieve.

I understand that an Ophthalmologist for the eyes, and a Cardiologist for the heart but who does the hips and elbows???



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Have you tried practicing inside with a ball first? Kaizer and I started with me throwing a ball down the hallway and then really excitedly clapping and cheering when he got it, usually that's enough to get him to come back. Since it was indoors, there were less distractions and he learned to come back. I use a completely different toy when we're outside, but the excited clapping and cheering is still the same.

Hips/elbows are generally done by vets, then you get the xrays and send them to OFA. The issue is finding a vet who can take good xrays and doesn't charge too much :-)

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You might contact your nearest GR club and ask if they're hosting any health clinics soon. You could likely get his eyes and heart all done in one visit. I took Teal and Archer to a clinic in the Summer and I think they only charged $30 for eyes and like $45 for auscultation by a cardiologist. Archer is neutered but he's almost 4 and I'll probably get his eyes done annually when I take Teal now. You could also ask about what vets are best at getting X-rays done for OFA. Most any office will take them, but you want to get the best views possible to submit and it can be kind of difficult. Some vets I've heard prefer to do them with the dogs sedated as well, but I don't want that done.



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ArchersMom - I agree! I do not want Seamus sedated. Thanks for the information.



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Our vet told us they also sedate. We are thinking of getting chloes done. She just turned two. It would be nice to know even if it is something mild so you can do preventative.

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