Please could any breeders tell me what is the hip score that you would breed from,I am distrought Honey has a crusia ligament injury on her left hind leg but my vet is also concerned about her right hip, Sire had h/s 7 dam h/s 10 Sire H/S 10 Dam H/S 13 Sire H/S 19 Dam hs/1 3 GGP 8 /11/14/12 I dont know if I should get in touch with her breeder please any advice appreciated if I dont reply it is due to the time diffrence.
The Crusia ligament is being x ray tuesday along with her hip.
Thank you in advance.
Tracey (Honeys mum)
Sorry. I am not educated on this. I just go by excellent/good /fair.
Maybe someone knowledgeable can help?
Hmmm...we don't score that way. I know others can help you. As for her hip, not all dogs with HD ever need surgery. I've known a few with very bad hips that never need surgery.
If she does need surgery, my own Shadow had an FHO and a THR by the time he was a year old. Life is good. He will be six soon.
Breathe...it will be okay.
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I would suggest waiting until you get the reading from the radiograph. Then contact her breeder.
We use a different rating system here in the US, Fair/Good/Excellent. The comparison between OFA and BVA is:
OFA Excellent = BVA 0-4
OFA Good = BVA 5-10
OFA Fair = BVA 11-18
OFA Borderline = BVA 19-25
OFA Mild = BVA 26-35
OFA Moderate = BVA 36-50
OFA Severe = BVA 51-106
Based on these comparisons, it appears that there are dogs in the pedigree that would definately be Fair and Borderline here in the US, and wouldn't be bred.
Good luck, I hope the radiographs show that she is alright.
Here's a Hip Rating Chart for comparison scorings around the world.
Look under the "new" BVA/UK Scoring. I think that's what you'd be looking for, and how it compares to the OFA scores in the US, or the FCI scores in Europe, etc.
On this chart, anything over an *8* is failing.
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When comparing to the US OFA scores, "Good', "Fair" and "Excellent" are all considered to be passing scores and breedable-no sign of DJD (degenerative joint disease).
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the above link is for the BVA British veterinary association.
The British mean score for golden retrievers is 18, so far 30,258 golden retrievers have been tested with a possible score of 0-106, each hip is rated from 0-53 each movement of the joint is rated 0-6
Below are Gracie's results
hip joint score range right left
Norberg angle 0-6 0:0
Subluxation 0-6 1:1
Cranial acetabular edge 0-6 2:2
Dorsal acetabular edge 0-6 0:0
Cranial effective acetabular rim 0-6 0:0
acetabular fossa 0-6 0:0
Caudal acetabular edge 0-5 0:0
Femoral head/neck exostosis 0-6 0:0
Femoral head recontouring 0-6 0:0
total max possible per column 53. Gracie had a score of 3:3, therefore her hip score =6
any dog with a total score of 18 or above should not be bred from, for example of 4:5 then the total would be 9 so with in the breed score average, clear as mud really
Last edited by mist; 06-21-2008 at 04:27 AM.
Thank you all so much for the replys.
The scores that I gave were the combined scores,so most were quite good if I have understood the information you have all given but the 19 should have been a definate no no for breeding if I have misunderstood please correct me (I can be a bit thick sometimes)
I am now just waiting for tuesday morning praying that the hip is okay but very worried about the crusia ligament as the vet thinks it will probably need an operation,Honey is only 7 months old and we just dont know how she has injured it she has never gone up or down the stairs but does tend to throw herself about.
Thank you once again for the replys and we have everything crossed for a good result on Tuesday.