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Darkening a "Snow Nose"

The dog in question is not a GR, but the owner is interested in showing, and a lighter nose is a fault in her breed (Whippets). The dog's color (cream, a gene that masks brindle and produces liver pigment) means it's not physically possible for him to have a black nose, but it was much darker when he was a puppy (almost black) and is now pink. Is there anything she give the dog, or any harmless topical solution that could darken it a bit? The dog is otherwise a great looking animal, and while his color and the accompanying light nose should NOT be a fault, judges don't care what the standard says- they still only award dogs with black pigment. I have heard vitamin C and B can cause the nose to darken, and to not use plastic bowls (Stainless is what she uses). PS the breed standard for Whippets says "Color immaterial" so ALL colors are acceptable, but many colors and pigments are unfairly faulted in favor of plain brindle or fawn and white. Blacks, solid colored dogs of any color, blues, and other dilutes, are hard to finish, even if they're of higher quality than the flashy particolored dogs. Just the way it is...
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I came here because I know ya'll are so knowledgeable! And a light nose is not smiled upon in GRs either.
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I don't know about in whippets, but in Goldens they look at the pigment around the eyes and on the lips as well as the color of the nose, so darkening just the nose doesn't really make much difference in determining "proper pigment".
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This dogs lips and eye rims are dark
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Try adding a little kelp to the dog's dinner.

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You can get a black cream from most horse showing catalogs or websites. We put it on the horses nose and eyes to darken a bit. Makes it a bit shiny, too. Might be something to look into.
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I have a friend whose Old English Sheepdog had an extreme case of snow nose - became totally pink at age 8. Shocking to see. Numerous vet consults in multiple states made no difference. Though it isn't supposed to be associated with any health issues, she did end up with an autoimmune disease shortly after her nose turned pink.
Sunlight and ingestion of PABA seemed to be the most common recommendation.
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You can get a black cream from most horse showing catalogs or websites. We put it on the horses nose and eyes to darken a bit. Makes it a bit shiny, too. Might be something to look into.
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That's fine for horse shows or for portraits... but I think you can get removed from the ring if your dog is caught with makeup. I've heard of judges rubbing noses to make sure the color is real.

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the stuff for horses would work, but you'd just have to make sure it's legal!
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