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International Champion Question?

Can someone please explain to me about International Champion. My dog, Kailey, her dad is an Int'l/Am/Can Ch. How does your dog become an Int'l Ch? Where do you go for information?
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You get your Int'l Championship (if in USA) by participating in the international dog show or IABCA. International Dog Show Calendar

The dogs there do not compete against each other but are judge according to the standard of the breed. The better the representation the dog makes of it's breed, the higher the ranking. Int'l Ch is earned by meeting the requirements the best. There can be multiple Int'l Ch in one show.
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You get your Int'l Championship (if in USA) by participating in the international dog show or IABCA. International Dog Show Calendar

The dogs there do not compete against each other but are judge according to the standard of the breed. The better the representation the dog makes of it's breed, the higher the ranking. Int'l Ch is earned by meeting the requirements the best. There can be multiple Int'l Ch in one show.
Having put International Championships on all of my dogs - I have to say yes and no to the above. It is pretty much a gimmie title at the shows I have been too - I have seen some VERY incorrect dogs with V1 ratings. While the dogs are first judged against the standard they then do compete against each other for Best of Breed, Best in Group, Best in Show etc. Pyper has 3 Best Veteran in Shows and one Reserve , Georgia has a Best Bred by Exhibitor in Show and 1 reserve and CJ has a Best Bred by in Show as well. All in all I do like the atmosphere of it being way more relaxed than CKC or AKC, I like the written critiques (although by the end of the second day they just read "correct"), and the tiered title system (you can keep competing for higher titles). What I didn't like was the high entry fee and "costs" for actually getting your certificate or the LONG (it was a year for our first ones) to actually recieve your certificates.

Edit to add: This is the only "conformation" title that I know of that does NOT require that you have to defeat any other dog.
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Having put International Championships on all of my dogs - I have to say yes and no to the above. It is pretty much a gimmie title at the shows I have been too - I have seen some VERY incorrect dogs with V1 ratings. While the dogs are first judged against the standard they then do compete against each other for Best of Breed, Best in Group, Best in Show etc. Pyper has 3 Best Veteran in Shows and one Reserve , Georgia has a Best Bred by Exhibitor in Show and 1 reserve and CJ has a Best Bred by in Show as well. All in all I do like the atmosphere of it being way more relaxed than CKC or AKC, I like the written critiques (although by the end of the second day they just read "correct"), and the tiered title system (you can keep competing for higher titles). What I didn't like was the high entry fee and "costs" for actually getting your certificate or the LONG (it was a year for our first ones) to actually recieve your certificates.

Edit to add: This is the only "conformation" title that I know of that does NOT require that you have to defeat any other dog.

I agree - so many of the Int'l Champions could never achieve either an AKC or a CKC championship, many not even a UKC ch.
Basically it is a title that pretty nearly anyone can purchase.
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I would think a CCA would be more meaningful more AND you actually get some feedback out of the evaluation.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you can also receive BOB if it's the ONLY breed there. I think it also depends on the Judge the time of judging, so when you look, instead of just looking at Int'l Ch itself, look at everything else as well...who were the competitors, how many other dogs were there and who were the judges .
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I do know of a couple of golden breeders who put AKC, UKC, and Int'l championships on their dogs, just because they enjoy doing it. One is pretty well known. But they don't put just the Int'l on the dogs for the reasons that Rebecca, Laura, and Mary have given; the dogs are AKC CH too.
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I do know of a couple of golden breeders who put AKC, UKC, and Int'l championships on their dogs, just because they enjoy doing it. One is pretty well known. But they don't put just the Int'l on the dogs for the reasons that Rebecca, Laura, and Mary have given; the dogs are AKC CH too.
- exactly! Now that my guys all have their Canadian and International Championships we are headed off to our first UKC show this weekend... any tips Barb?
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I agree - so many of the Int'l Champions could never achieve either an AKC or a CKC championship, many not even a UKC ch.
Basically it is a title that pretty nearly anyone can purchase.

Now be fair. I tend to believe that participation in any type of organized event by dog/handler is a good thing.

The Int CH is an excellent venu for beginners to start learning about Conformation. The dogs are evaluated against the IABC Standard and given a rating. (Very similar in concept to the CCA)

It is a good opportunity for new handlers to enter the sport without getting too beat up. They get an education and encouragement to continue. If they find success here, they may attempt UKC or AKC events where they otherwise would not.
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Now be fair. I tend to believe that participation in any type of organized event by dog/handler is a good thing.

The Int CH is an excellent venu for beginners to start learning about Conformation. The dogs are evaluated against the IABC Standard and given a rating. (Very similar in concept to the CCA)

It is a good opportunity for new handlers to enter the sport without getting too beat up. They get an education and encouragement to continue. If they find success here, they may attempt UKC or AKC events where they otherwise would not.
I also am a huge advocate of people doing things with their dogs, so in that respect, it's a great thing. I just can't hold a dog who has only an Int'l CH as being the greatest dog on four legs. Far too many that do are being marketed as such on internet Puppy$Sale sites as being the highest quality EVER - and because the title is "International", the general public is inclined to think that this dog is some sort of Winner of the Universe or something. Many of them that earn Int'l CH's are not, IMO, even of a breedable quality.
I also know some people with AM/Can CH's who have gone for Int'l later - again, because they like doing "stuff" with their dogs (but they don't advertise and rarely even mention the Int'l ch...) Now, though, with the AKC offering Grand Chapionships, many of those people are back in the AKC rings to earn those...
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