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Junior vs puppy conformation

We are looking into showing our puppy next year. I see that there is junior showmanship and puppy conformation. Would my son be able to do both? Or is puppy conformation just for adults? BTW he is 10 years old. Duke is 8.5 weeks old.
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Which show are you looking at?


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Yes you can do both. Have you found classes to attend when the pup is a bit older?

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Which show are you looking at?
Looking at a puppy conformation show in March. Also an all breed show with junior handling at Maryland state Fairgrounds in April.

Found 2 places that offer handling classes: 4 paws spa/training and oriole. We currently take puppy classes at 4 paws. Not sure which one we will go to for handling classes. Does anyone know any other places or any experiences with these two?
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Looking at a puppy conformation show in March. Also an all breed show with junior handling at Maryland state Fairgrounds in April.

Found 2 places that offer handling classes: 4 paws spa/training and oriole. We currently take puppy classes at 4 paws. Not sure which one we will go to for handling classes. Does anyone know any other places or any experiences with these two?
If you're doing the 4-6 month puppy class at the PVGRC specialty, I'll be there w/ my pup!

I am currently taking a handling class at CTA in Beltsville and will be doing another one beginning mid-Jan at Capital in Silver Spring--both locations I think are too far for you. I like Oriole, if you can get a class there, I'd take it.


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If you're doing the 4-6 month puppy class at the PVGRC specialty, I'll be there w/ my pup!

I am currently taking a handling class at CTA in Beltsville and will be doing another one beginning mid-Jan at Capital in Silver Spring--both locations I think are too far for you. I like Oriole, if you can get a class there, I'd take it.
Yup, that the pup show we are looking at. So you are already taking handling classes with your puppy? How old is s/he? We are so new to all of this.
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If you want your son to be a Junior Handler, go to the AKC and apply for a Junior Handler number now so you are all set when doing the entries. Make sure his name and/or your name is on the puppy's registration.

In Junior Handling, the judge judges the handler not the dog, but it is important that the puppy is trained and the Junior Handler has to do all the grooming.

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If you want your son to be a Junior Handler, go to the AKC and apply for a Junior Handler number now so you are all set when doing the entries. Make sure his name and/or your name is on the puppy's registration.

In Junior Handling, the judge judges the handler not the dog, bu it is important that the puppy is trained and the Junior Handler has to do all the grooming.
we just got his number and pin the other day. now we are focusing on basic training and looking for handling classes.
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we just got his number and pin the other day. now we are focusing on basic training and looking for handling classes.
So awesome! My daughter just started Junior Handling last year, so we are learning along the way. I have found many people (breeders, handlers, and other people in the show world ) have been very supportive of her when they find out she is a Junior. There are also a couple Facebook pages that I have learned from.

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Okay here are some thoughts...

If you are showing in juniors and regular classes that is a lot for a puppy let alone a boy. If it is a specialty, you would have juniors, regular classes and Sweepstakes until your puppy is 18 months old which is even more. Then most shows are at least 2 days and that multiplies the amount of work.

I actually witnessed a family burn out a puppy by doing this, entering every available class for a 5 day show. By the end the puppy was burnt out and never really got back her love of showing.

That takes me to the next thought. For the puppy (and ideally your son) this has to be fun. It is a real balance to find that for both of them. If you are allowed by your breeder to register him with UKC, I would look into starting there if they have some in your area. They are a much smaller organization and must UKC shows are very family and newbie friendly. Also the level of grooming is much less intimidating as UKC does not allow the use of product on the coat.

If you do need to choose I would go juniors at least until your son gets a very good foundation of ring procedures and the puppy has gotten some good ring experience.

You will be amazed at all the little things it takes to show a dog well and a good chunk is building routine and muscle memory. How your stride length should be, how to quickly and safely wind a lead into your hand, which foot to plant for your pivot on the individual work, how to set and reset the collar, and what to do about bait. These are the little things that once learned become second nature but while you are learning can be frustrating.


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