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Old 01-17-2010, 06:37 PM
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Jumping and biting crazy puppy!!!

Here's Josie's behavior problem this week :
When she's outside on the leash, she will all of a sudden turn to me and start jumping at me and biting me. She goes for my hands, my coat, and then my legs as I try to hold the leash so she can't get me. I try to stand still and be boring - doesn't work at all. I've tried putting her in a down and stepping on the leash until she settles (trainer's suggestion), doesn't work and often makes her madder , plus I just don't like doing it, it just feels like there is a more positive way to teach her. I've tried redirecting her with commands and treats, sometimes works but I feel like I'm just teaching her a new way to ask for treats. Usually I end up getting her/dragging her to the house, and then giving her (and myself) some time out in her crate. (I always give her treats in the crate so she doesn't think it's a punishment.)
Any suggestions on how to get past this weeks mystifying behavior problem? Don't worry, next week I'll have a new one to solve!
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Old 01-17-2010, 06:44 PM
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OMG you have described me and Oscar exactly. Not to my boyfriend, JUST to me. Oscar goes nuts!!! And now that he is 50lbs he is quite a moose to be jumping up on me. I have tried all those things you mentioned... nope, just makes him crazier. SOMETIMES he'll stop if I ask for a SIT, place my hands on the side of his face (gently) and look into his eyes, then give him some calming pets on his neck, then do a little sit-stay for a minute... I think he's just so excited to play, he thinks jumping up and biting me is going to make me want to play... (LOL sorry buddy you just drive me nuts!)... but then soon enough he's back to the jumping and biting. He only really does this outside (on leash) though...

Looking forward to hearing some other people's suggestions!! I very much feel your pain!! (literally when he grazes me with his teeth -- well at the very least he has no more PUPPY/SHARK teeth!)
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Old 01-17-2010, 07:22 PM
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Sounds very familiar to me! Bailey did the same thing when she was youger, usually 3-4 times during our walk and because of her puppy teeth I got some holes in my shirts. Now at 7 months she does it just one time on each walk and usually just before arriving home. I just hope she will completly outgrow it because it can be pretty annoying, especially if she does it right then when we cross the intersection infront of waiting cars...
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I don't have much advice to offer, but wanted to say that I empathise and remember this stage well. At 8 months Jesse is now much better and this probably hasn't happened for the last 6 weeks or so - she now only does it when she's REALLY desperate for a walk after being cooped up inside. When she went through the jumping and biting stage when she was younger I tried a combination of being boring, using various commands (using sit, drop, stand in qiuck succession often worked because she was too busy thinking about what I was asking to remember to bite) and carrying a toy to distract her. I am sure others might have some further suggestions for you.
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:30 AM
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OMG you have described me and Oscar exactly. Not to my boyfriend, JUST to me. Oscar goes nuts!!! And now that he is 50lbs he is quite a moose to be jumping up on me. I have tried all those things you mentioned... nope, just makes him crazier. SOMETIMES he'll stop if I ask for a SIT, place my hands on the side of his face (gently) and look into his eyes, then give him some calming pets on his neck, then do a little sit-stay for a minute... I think he's just so excited to play, he thinks jumping up and biting me is going to make me want to play... (LOL sorry buddy you just drive me nuts!)... but then soon enough he's back to the jumping and biting. He only really does this outside (on leash) though...

Looking forward to hearing some other people's suggestions!! I very much feel your pain!! (literally when he grazes me with his teeth -- well at the very least he has no more PUPPY/SHARK teeth!)
I forgot to mention this, but Josie only does this for me as well. She is soo good for my husband, she wouldn't dare try this on him. Of course, he's not the one who walks her, so no help there anyway. She can't be bothered doing it to the kids, she knows she can boss them around. I'm the one she likes to challenge. She just started doing it inside, too. I guess she liked the response she was getting out of me.
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I forgot to mention this, but Josie only does this for me as well. She is soo good for my husband, she wouldn't dare try this on him. Of course, he's not the one who walks her, so no help there anyway. She can't be bothered doing it to the kids, she knows she can boss them around. I'm the one she likes to challenge. She just started doing it inside, too. I guess she liked the response she was getting out of me.
Yeah I'm totally with you there... I think Oscar really loves to grab on to me and get me to squirm around because HE HAS BIG TEETH and it HURTS

I really hate to hijack your thread but I just had a really bad time with Oscar and I'm still (mostly mentally, but also physically!) hurting and I need to vent and hear anyone's ideas because I'm at a loss here...

We went outside for a walk and when we got back into the apartment hallway, he went C-R-A-Z-Y, jumping up and doing his "demon noises" thing. He is a VERY vocal dog, and he has this play growl-snarl thing that is LOUD... he hops around and does "play bows" and makes all kinds of crazy noises trying to get me to play??? BUT THEN he is jumping up and like literally GNAWING on my wrists... I'm trying to get him to SIT, LIE DOWN, annnything but he is just not listening... and his demon noises are getting even louder. My neighbors peek their heads out of their doors "Um, are you okay?" I'm like "...oh yeah, he's just playing... he's a toddler... ha ha ha..." (FAKE SMILE FAKE SMILE) and trying to pet him with one hand while GRIMACING BECAUSE HE IS EATING MY WRIST AND HAND...
... Then I'm stepping on the leash and trying the "hands on the sides of his head, look into my eyes" thing... NOPE he's wrenched himself away and is now tearing off down the hallway back towards the elevator. Guess somebody wants to GO BACK OUTSIDE AND PLAY MOM
... So we end up wrestling all the way down the hall and we BOTH END UP INSIDE HIS CRATE... I am crying and exhausted and he is licking my face and hands because I'M PRETTY SURE HE THINKS "THIS IS A GREAT GAME MOM!!!" So we lie in there for a little while... He is like YAY MOM WE'RE SNUGGLING and I'm like OW OW OW my hand and pride are hurting, Mr. Demon Dog!!

I'm pretty sure this is a case of (1) me not knowing how best to communicate CUT IT OUT / DISTRACT him, and (2) I think he needs to go to the dog park every MORNING so he is more tired throughout the day. We usually wait until the afternoon/evening, but I'm thinking that he needs the running around in the AM. He obviously thinks the biting is a great game, but "ignoring" him is not really possible since he just continues to jump up and make increasingly loud and scary noises

Thanks for letting me vent can't find a smiley for "I am exhausted" but that's the one I would be using. And I re-read my thread and I'm laughing because I'm sure my neighbors think I am NUTS and I'm sure we were quite a spectacle today... and that my dog has me very well trained!!!!
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Hi Zephyr,
You aren't hijacking, just making me feel better that I'm not alone. The only reason I didn't respond yesterday is because I was too exhausted to type! Josie was pretty good yesterday, but I never know when her mood will change! One minute she's fine, the next she's biting my pants off.
We get our exercise in the morning, but by mid afternoon the benefits have worn off and she starts with the bad behavior. Unfortunately, I really can't take her for another walk at that time - I have to take care of my kids and get them to their activities.
Have you had any luck with bully sticks or other chewing things? I gave her a bully stick a few days ago, and the first day she chewed on it fine. Then, the next couple of times I gave it to her (only 15-30 minutes at a time) it seems to make her snappy afterwards. Maybe overstimulating? I just wish I could find something she likes to do that doesn't have bad consequences, and doesn't involve me standing in the cold while she chews a stick. I tried an antler, too, and she liked that for maybe a day, now she has no interest.
Well, off to walk Josie since she's biting my leg (I'm not kidding)!
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Hi Zephyr,
You aren't hijacking, just making me feel better that I'm not alone. The only reason I didn't respond yesterday is because I was too exhausted to type! Josie was pretty good yesterday, but I never know when her mood will change! One minute she's fine, the next she's biting my pants off.
We get our exercise in the morning, but by mid afternoon the benefits have worn off and she starts with the bad behavior. Unfortunately, I really can't take her for another walk at that time - I have to take care of my kids and get them to their activities.
Have you had any luck with bully sticks or other chewing things? I gave her a bully stick a few days ago, and the first day she chewed on it fine. Then, the next couple of times I gave it to her (only 15-30 minutes at a time) it seems to make her snappy afterwards. Maybe overstimulating? I just wish I could find something she likes to do that doesn't have bad consequences, and doesn't involve me standing in the cold while she chews a stick. I tried an antler, too, and she liked that for maybe a day, now she has no interest.
Well, off to walk Josie since she's biting my leg (I'm not kidding)!
Thanks -- it does help to know someone else feels my pain!

I actually haven't tried bully sticks or antlers anything he can ingest, just because he is a super chewer and he reeeally tries to swallow like everything whole Well I guess we do stuffed/frozen Kongs a lot... that really seems to distract him. We've "graduated" to the big black one ("Power chewer" or something) and I put peanut butter, treats, and water in there and freeze it. He can work on that for a while!!! He also has some nylabones that we rotate so he doesn't get too bored with all of them.

He is a super puller so walks were REALLY difficult, but we JUST started connecting his leash to the front of his harness rather than the back/top, which is how those no-pull harnesses work (it turns him sideways when he pulls) -- and OMG it actually works!! So now I can actually walk him myself... BUT I bring my little bottle of "bitter apple" that I put in my pocket, and if he starts getting nutty and jumping at me and biting, I spray it right on my sleeve or the leash where he is jumping. He hates that stuff SO he stops right away!!!
...... Okay except that one time when he jumped up at me, I try to spray my sleeve, drop the bottle in the snow and the sprayer pops off... I bend down to get it, and Oscar sees his opportunity to jump ALL OVER ME... ripping the baggie of scooped poop and dragging it around... I fall on my behind... well it just wasn't pretty but I had to laugh!!!

But the best exercise for him is still the dog park, partly because we can play fetch (we have no yard), but mostly because he can run around and play with the other dogs and tire himself out!! Any way you could drop Josie at dog day care or something, even for a few hours, so she can wear herself out with some other dogs? I feel you on that "afternoon crazies" stage... right when I am trying to get a million things done...

... OH GOTTA LOVE THOSE PUPPERS THOUGH
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Teddy was the same way when he was younger and he still has his moments. The only thing that really helped was consistency and time. It's taken a while, but he is now realizing that he is not getting the reaction he wants out of it and has given up for the most part.
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I am so glad to know that our golden is not the only one who jumps and bites. We lost our first golden last May. He was only three years old, and the vet. thought he probably had a stroke. We were heartbroken. Hubbel was the greatest dog. We got him when our daughter was two, and they were best friends. He was never agressive and always very gentle with her. Well, we missed Hubbel so much, that we got a golden puppy in August. His name is Hurley, and he is absolutely beautiful, but we are having a real biting problem with him. He is now 7 months old, and he is constantly going after my 7 and 11 year old daughters. I understand that he is doing this because he knows he can, but I can't have this behavior continue. We have been to puppy classes and we have had a trainer come to our house. My husband and I have tried everything- spray bottle, pennies in a can, standing like a tree and being calm, treats for good behavior, but nothing is working. Does anyone have any suggestions for us? We are willing to try anything. The last thing I want to do is give him up, but I am really starting to worry that he is going to hurt one of the kids. I know that he is just excited, and probably wants to play, but it is really hard to tell your 7 year old to be calm when she is getting bit and knocked over. We are really feeling helpless right now and are desperate for a solution. Thanks!
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