I know everyone recommends obedience and training and I totally agree. We're working on that at the moment, and doing my best on that. We do see a trainer though, who says he has developed a routine and is rehearsing those behaviors so I'm trying to break them by doing different things. For example, the first day he started bothering me heaps in the morning (and he never used to before), he started doing it every single day after that, for a few days before I realised ok he's starting new behavior and I do something about it. The default was just a time out.
Originally Posted by puddles everywhere View Post
I'm not sure what you mean by triggers. Chewing on you at this age is not acceptable, is he trying to get you to engage or just plain being disrespectful?
Just my take on your post but it sounds your mindset is that you are dong everything he needs you to do but he still wants more and not sure what to do. So the dog is calling all the shots?
You mentioned working on obedience, have you attended an obedience class? It's your job to say when the day is over. Put him in his crate when you have had enough but highly recommend you contact a trainer.
I would say he's trying to engage? Or he doesn't know what do once he's finished lying still and once he's finished the hide and seek game and once he's finished the kong.
Dogs do what works for them.
I am guessing that when you sit down you are more accessable to manipulation.
Walking isn't really a lot of exercise for a golden. They could really use some heart pumping aerobic exercise also.
How long of duration have you built into before reinforcing for being settle?
I think it is time to get into that obedience class. The instructor can give you hands on help to tweak the training you have already done. If I remember correctly Cedar is close to a year. He still has that puppy brain going on. Your instructor can also give you additional or tweak the impulse control type games to help to teach him to be calmer. I think when you were talking about the obedience class I mentioned something about over arousal. When a dog becomes over threshold, a lot of cortisol floods their brains. It takes 2 to 3 days to get their brain back to normal. The more cortisol hormone flowing through their brains the less likely they can calm down.
I know walking an hour isn't heaps, so I try to built in training for him. We do sits, drops, 5 min timed stays. We found a set of rock steps so I would make him jump up follow the path, get off and get a treat. If he jumps off halfway then no treat. We walk around the dog park, and practice getting his attention away from dogs in the park.
He could settle for a good half hour. As soon as I say ok, he wants to jump on me, so now I let him find some treats after. This worked for some days, and then after he has the treat he wants to engage me.
Think about what his day is like. (Please understand that I am not criticizing your for working. Your dog likes to live indoors with you and he also likes to eat, so you have to work
However.... ) He spends 8 or so hours overnight in his crate (I'm guessing) asleep. Then he is up with you for an hour or so till you go to work? He spends another 8 or 9 hours sleeping till you get home from work. The remaining time he is getting walked which is a good distraction but it is not exercise. That's 17 hours sleeping, 2 hours walking, and then some training time and the other time he's hanging out or entertaining himself. That's about 4 hours when you need to get things done but he would like to play.
A leash walk around the block is exercise for your 80 year old grandmother, but it is not exercise for a growing, teenage golden retriever puppy. He needs hard aerobic exercise every day of the week for a good 20 or 30 minutes that gets his heart rate up and leaves him panting and tired. It is tough to get this kind of exercise for an urban dog unless you teach a formal retrieve and develop a love for that game, have a place where he can swim off leash or have puppy playdates where he can wrestle and play with another nice young dog his approx size and age. Taking him out hiking on Saturdays or to the beach on Sundays is not enough to hold him over for the week. It needs to be pretty much every single day, the effects are cumulative over a period of days.
In the house you can play games like "Hide the toy" where you put him in a down stay and then go hide a favorite toy somewhere in the house. THen you return and release him to find the toy. It works well on rainy days for entertainment
If you are fair to him and get him plenty of exercise in addition to the outings on leash, you can expect him to learn a "settle" command in the house and hang out with a chew bone. Most puppies simply are too energetic to be left home alone all day and then be expected to let you relax on the couch during evening hours. They are like toddlers, if they are awake, you have to keep an eye on them and most likely you will not be able to read a book or watch t.v. This phase will pass in another year or so but this is part of the deal with a Golden Retriever.
I know you mentioned this before, so I'm trying to do more training more exercise more everything! He will spend 8 hours asleep. He has 3 hours with me before I leave, during which he did not used to bother me heaps, but now he does. When the game stops, when I'm eating, when he's finished eating etc. So now I always do a settle when I'm having breakfast. Time out works as well. I've been trying more distraction since the trainer recommended it, and it works for the moment but he may comes back.
While he is at home during the day, it is as you say, but I particularly like this area I live because my neighbours will walk by and entertain him by the window. They will put their hands through the tiny gap in the window and cuddle him. If my neighbours opposite are working in their shop front, then he will watch them as much as they are there.
We do play hide the toy, he knows squirrel, croc, teddy and rhino. But of course he will mix them up all the time so I won't say he is great at it. I could play hide and seek myself but he knows all the hiding spots now so he's really quick. He loves this game though. He will run through the house to me. One thing I noticed is whatever game he is playing, he will give up and stop at some point. He will stop chasing the ball and turn and look at me. He's not physically tired, but I don't know, maybe he's bored of the game? This is the time I go, yay I can go wash the dishes now! One interesting thing is he's learned this situation - when I'm washing dishes he settles nicely and NEVER bothers me. But he also used to settle EXCELLENTLY when I play the violin. Now he bothers me so we have to do a settle first. In the past we did a time out whenever that happened, and when he came back from time out he was fine.
I'm still trying to get a car, so when I do have one, we can go to the park and he can run around. At the moment I only take him on weekends because its far and he walks there fine, but walks really slowly and pants all the way back. It takes 2 hours for this outing, but he loves it of course. Only one time we went out for 4 hours was he an angel the rest of the night. The 4 hours was not much walking, some running but not much, and mostly trying to get him to settle, and lots of people cooing over him, so I would say lots of stimulation.