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Old 10-13-2008, 10:46 AM
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BITING female golden retriever 4 months old

I am so confused. As an owner of two golden retrievers who have passed on, I certainly do not remember dealing with these biting issues at all. Mind you when my children came along my goldens were adults.

SO I now have added three children to the mix and a new golden puppy, and presto you have an entirely different set of rules. (children aged 6,8, 10)

SO my worry is our Golden was given to us at 6 weeks and 5 days. (from a reputable breeder). WE were told to pick her up early, as the puppies were being weaned due to the mother losing weight....(she had a c-section pregnancy...etc, and was getting tired).....so early pick up for our new golden puppy.

SO we get our puppy, and she seems to be growing stubborn as the days and weeks go on.....stubborn and one that bites. Going for ankles and calf muscles when you turn around. Grabbing fingers and arms when convenient.

My children are well behaved with the dog and we try so hard to keep with the same commands and voice level. (I must commend the kids on their behaviour with the dog.

So I did have a private one on one with a trainer...she taught me "OFF"..etc...and although this works when YOU actually have FOOD in your hand. It is not working well for these spontaneous BITES.....she keeps on biting.
WE have ignored her, timed her out...etc..nothing is working.

She also feels she is the ALPHA in the house.....SHE pulls me when I walk her...she ignores me outside......She is so stubborn, and I have not dealth with this before.

HELP??? is this normal behaviour for a four month old golden retriever????

I am home with her all day (excpet for when I teach yoga, so only gone 2 hours maximum!!) so she gets a TON of exercise, and play time...stimulation)...and down time.

WHat am I DOING WRONG!!

I feel as though I have failed.....

Thank you all in advance.
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Old 10-13-2008, 10:58 AM
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Don't give up! I found the 4 month mark the worst with the puppy nipping - those puppy teeth are really bothering her at this point and you should see a change once the new teeth come in.

I think we tried everything in the book and you need to - to find out what works for YOUR Golden. What finally worked for Griff was the coins in the can - when he started to mouth we'd give it a little shake and it was enough to distract him long enough to give him a stuffed sock or toy - something appropriate to bite on.

You really are almost over the hump with this - hang in there!
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They are piranah through that stage! Keep dog toys handy to replace your body part with.

Do a search on the this board for "biting", you will find a large number of threads from people with exactly the same thing going on with their puppy, and lots of really good suggestions for working with it. Just be consistent with stopping her from biting and she will get past this stage.

You are not a failure, your puppy is normal!
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I never had a biting problem with Rocky but like you I also have a 4 month old girl as well.

She's not so into the biting us yet but like you said, she is stubborn, ignores commands when out and is generally a pain to take out sometimes.

She runs up to random people, I mean sprints up to them for attention, and I look at her like

She trys to do what the older Golden can do...

I've almost got her listening again, simply by giving her a treat everytime she comes to me after being called and she now seems to come more when shes called(expecting a treat)

Good luck
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Hi Tanya, I truly believe that as with people, all dogs are so different in personality that what works for one won't necessarily work for the next. Your pup is in the middle the teething stage I think, so their need to bite and chew is at it's greatest.

We had a puppy just like yours, he was such a bundle of energy and was completley psyched all the time. We had holes in our clothes, although I don't think he really tried to bite us through nastiness, it was pure exuberance!!!

What worked for us was to practice ignoring the puppy especially when she is demanding attention. She must realise that attention from you isn't a god given right and always is on your terms. This doesn't mean you ignore her all the time, quite the opposite, it's just that you decide when you play the game and when it ends.

I don't know if this was right, but the only way we could get Spud to stop biting was to shout Aah, in a loud short sharp voice and then ignore. if the puppy continues, immediately put heraway from you until she calms down. Soon it might sink in that if she is demanding in this way, i.e. biting, then she will be removed from the 'pack'.

If it's any consolation, Obi is quite the most lovely dog you could imagine now he's grown up a bit. He's still a complete goon, but hasn't really got any bad habits now, I'm so lucky to have him... but he was a complete and utter nightmare in his first year. I even gave up training classes because he used to slip all over the floor just trying to get to all the other dogs to play!!!! I took him back to training earlier this year and he was a joy! Just shows the difference a year makes.

Good luck, and I hope you get loads of helpful advice here.
Tanya
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Tanya,

Ruby, now 13 months, was just like this. My kids were 11 and 7 when we got her and my son, then 7 would scream and yell when she would come at him. She would knock him down and start biting him. She would come at me just like you described with the ankles and the calf. Getting the kids ready for school in the morning was a nightmare. The dog would be all over the place biting all of us. I felt bad because I would end up putting her in her crate just to get some peace and quiet. If I gave her a treat she would take my whole hand. She was the Alpha and we could not get control. I even had a trainer coming to the house from the time she was 11 weeks old. Ruby was 4 1/2 months old and I had to send her off to a woman who does behavioral training in her home. She was gone for 4 weeks and when she came back most of her bad behaviors were gone. She was still a puppy and we really had to work with her. She still does not walk well on a leash and pulls and lunges at anything. I also stay at home and she is exercised daily and has companionship throughout the day. She is high energy and demands your attention constantly. It has gotten better now that she is over a year. The other thing that has helped is the doggie day camps. I will drop her off one to two times a week for her to rough it up with the other dogs. I wish you lots of luck.

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All I can say is thank you all so much for your guidance and sharing your stories with me. I feel as though I am not alone. I was so thankful to just find this website during a "google" search for help on biting.

All of you sharing your stories gives me hope that she will get better. I also feel very NORMAL....hearing your story Vicky about getting the kids ready for school and feeling overwhelmed with a puppy biting a loose piece of clothing on the kids...or taking off with a shirt sleeve (while the child is still in it)....it makes me feel as though I am not alone in my experiences and things will get better.

My dog is stubborn, she is a leash puller ....I have a halter, and a training collar, but she still insists or ripping my arm off when I walk (and she is only four months)...I so need to get this corrected.

When I walk her she does not even acknowledge me....she totally is "walking me"...."follow me"...is her motto.

I have even done the imbilicle cord training.....it works...but as soon as I walk her...she is the leader....

hard.....

I will take a breath, and continue with our training, as I know she is only a puppy, and I know it has to get better.

Thank you all!!
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Tanya

ps, enjoyed all your amazing pictures!! love the goldens!
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One last thing I forgot to mention but it's very important - remember - to her life is just one big game - it's all in fun. She's like a child that has to learn her manners and it won't be overnight but Goldens grow up much faster than children.

What's her name? Can we see a picture?
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THanks so much for the extra info.....I sometimes forget....so it is a nice reminder.
I forget that she is ONLY four months....not long living on our amazing earth, hearing, seeing, tasting.....
I will get some pictures ...thank you for asking.
I just signed up to the website today, so still trying to figure things out....
I was wanting to place another post....
My Maggie (my puppy golden of four months)...suffer from puppy vaginitis, so I was going to ask some advice on this too.
I am so glad I have found this site!!!
Peace
Tanya
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Tanya, try to get one command super reliable with Maggie. I'd suggest "sit", since that's useful when she's trying to be a land shark. Everyone, kids included, can ask her to sit before giving a treat, before going through a doorway, before getting her food bowl put on the floor, etc. No sit, no treat or whatever. A four-month-old pup is tough, so it's hard to remember she's just a baby (with very sharp teeth)! As for the pulling on leash, I don't mind using a pinch collar as a training tool; you can transition to a flat collar when the lesson is learned. Don't worry.....you'll have a lovely companion when adolescence is over:-)
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