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Old 11-13-2012, 12:10 PM
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Thank you for rescuing him!

You need a more secure kennel! It does not sound like Separation Anxiety so much as boredom to me. None of my dogs would quietly stay in a kennel- They would all bark and such but mine are also not used to living outdoors.

Buddy is an ex-runner who loves the freedom the invisible fence give him.
You're totally right. I amended the subject of this thread for that reason. The trainer I spoke with yesterday said if it were true separation anxiety, he'd be acting up WHENEVER or WHEREVER I wasn't around. He's asleep in the garage on a rug right now, lol, and I'm not out there. So, thanks for that insight.
Now, to the kennel: HERE is the exact kennel from Petsmart. As you can see, it's not panels and the wire gauge is very weak. But what's worse is at the bottom, you have to use these twist ties to secure the fencing to the bottom rail. ANY dog of any muscle and intellect can easily 'nose' that apart and then, it's all down hill from there. I completely agree I need to try a better kennel. I have a buddy who will let me borrow his heavier gauge, panelled kennel and we'll see how that goes. As I said, I found Bentley back IN the kennel a couple of times, where he went back in through the newest holes he tore open. Thanks!

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I'm going to try very hard to be nice on this one, but it's a stretch for me. Ditto for me.

I have a rescued golden, one who was kept in a chain link kennel with a dog igloo in it. Not quite the same circumstances as your situation, since he rarely set foot on grass, but the storm phobia was astounding and still is. Go crawl into your dog igloo in a thunderstorm and listen to the magnification of the raindrops or hail, not to mention the thunder.
It won't be pleasant for you,and you have the ability to know what it is. So think how much more frightening it is for your new dog, who has luckily bonded with you but can't figure out why in the world he's left outside in a storm with all that terrible noise or at all. My two cents.
If he happily went in the crate in the garage, why not happily in the crate in the house?
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My son was a severe asthmatic growing up, so our previous golden wasn't allowed upstairs on the bedroom level of the house, and my son had to wash his face and hands thoroughly after playing with the dog.
That explained a lot...

If this dog is as nice as you say, your wife will come around quickly. Get your daughter involved in the training, nothing is more precious than a child and a dog together, playing and training.
It has taken lots of desensitization, Rescue Remedy and more than a bucketload of love to make my dog "normal". I forgot to mention the extraordinary amount of money to repair his broken back, courtesy of his previous owners, but hitting him with a baseball bat or a pipe was just an extension of keeping him terrorized in a concrete kennel.
I'm very proud of you for rescuing and paying for those and for giving all and loving those animals. Good for you!


I'd like to say that I don't mean to be harsh here, but I actually do.
Well, congratulations are in order! You've succeeded in being harsh. But let's move ahead with what this forum is about, please.
I'm really excited that Bentley has taken to the crate so well. I'm off today and we'll go out for a RUN soon. After I get him neutered, I'm putting an inground fence in, it'll span a few acres, so he'll have LOTS of room to run. But, having him crate trained is mandatory. Like last night, it was cooolllld and if he had been outside, I'd have brought him into the garage. The storm the other night was just a little bitty thunderstorm, not much, just some rumbles and light rain. Turns out, the retriever in him LOOOOVES the water puddles in the yard. hahaha. That was great to see him romp through them. Then, I had to brush him out to get the mud out. He's just a great dog!
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:16 PM
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If I couldn't keep a golden retriever inside the home with the family where he belongs, I would see what I could do finding a home for the dog that could give him a good life with a home that could provide that.

I can't comprehend what kind of life this dog is going to have if the only social interaction he receives depends on you being outside or in the garage with him. Right now is fine, but most people I know who keep the dogs outside spend maybe 45 minutes to a couple hours a day with the dog tops. They slack off over time. And they probably think that is adequate.

There are dog breeds who would thrive on being kept outside alone in a kennel 24/7, but not goldens.
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I just found out today, that Bentley LOOOVES chasing a Frisbee outside in the yard! That was way cool fun. hahah He's not so much at bringing it back, but running after it. lol. That was fun. My 16 year old son enjoyed it as well. I really didn't know that he'd like it that much. He's so enamored with me that it's hard to get him to fetch much. He just wants to sit and have me pet him. But he BOLTED after a frisbee.

Sidenote: please stop chastising me and my sweet family in this thread for choosing to not have the dog in our home.
For me? Naw, I could care less, it is what it is. Enjoy your pup inside your home.
But you could be stopping others from saving a dog in a bad situation if you are ranting about the ONLY way to be good to a dog is to have him in your home and your bed. That's up to you if that's your choice, but don't set bad standards to possible adoptive families reading here that might not want an 80 pound dog in their home.
They could still be helping a dog from getting gassed.
Please be part of the solution...not part of the problem.
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Sidenote: please stop chastising me and my sweet family in this thread for choosing to not have the dog in our home.
For me? Naw, I could care less, it is what it is. Enjoy your pup inside your home.
But you could be stopping others from saving a dog in a bad situation if you are ranting about the ONLY way to be good to a dog is to have him in your home and your bed. That's up to you if that's your choice, but don't set bad standards to possible adoptive families reading here that might not want an 80 pound dog in their home.
They could still be helping a dog from getting gassed.
Please be part of the solution...not part of the problem.
Thank you.
Mark & Bentley
If this was directed at me no worries. I won't be answering anymore of your questions. You asked for advice, you got it.
And for your information, my dog was chained to a tree and beaten with a baseball bat. I saved her. My other GR was locked in a basement and isolated for 4 years, I saved him. Another of my GR's was ignored, beaten, fed hot sauce, forced to drink beer...I saved him too. I have rescued dogs my entire life So do NOT try to run a self righteous guilt trip on me sir.
Good luck with your dog. I'm done.
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My goldens are all house dogs, so I can't support the "let's live in the garage concept". All were either kept outside or in a pen (puppy mill) and I'm confident that none of them prefer that life over being inside as part of the family.

While it may be a step up in the right direction from the life he previously had, is it really the best for Bentley? I hope you can put Bentley's needs ahead of your own wants.

As for chastising you, I really don't see anyone doing that--you asked for advice on an open forum and you received it--it just didn't match what you were wanting to hear.
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Mark, I can't think of a single rescue that would place a dog in a home where the dog would be an outside dog only. I will gladly repeat that adoptive families who do not want an 80 lb dog in their home need to look at other breeds. Maybe smaller breeds who would fit their home lifestyle better. I'm sure you are a great dog owner and care about this dog... but if your son is allergic and your wife doesn't want the dog in the house right now, you have to really seriously consider what the long haul is going to be like for this dog if you are the only person who's looking out for him. And if he is outside or in the garage all the time, there will be health concerns to consider as well. It's a harder life for the dog. At the very least, you are talking about skin and coat problems because it's just impossible to keep them clean or keep bugs off.
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That's up to you if that's your choice, but don't set bad standards to possible adoptive families reading here that might not want an 80 pound dog in their home.
Then maybe an 80 lb. dog wouldn't be the right choice for them.

Sorry, but IMO every dog deserves to be with their family, inside their home. Especially a breed like a Golden that thrives on human companionship. To ostracize a dog to the garage, to me, is wrong.
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I didn't ask for opinions or advice...I asked for help.
Instead of actual help or support, (except for a couple of members being nicely supportive) I got lots of freely shared unsolicited OPINIONS that dog problems are best solved by not training the problem, but MOVE the 80 lb problem into your home. Yes, that makes better sense.
So since we're doing unsolicited opinions, then it seems only proper that I be able to share my opinion of some people who house large dogs in their homes.
I had not posted my opinions out of respect. But, apparantly, this forum is allowed to run on prison rules.
My opinion is that dogs are not human and should not be confused as such. It's my opinion that some people have difficulty with trust and human relationships and they substitute that void with an animal that does as they say, without human consequences they have to deal with. Typically, a dog that reciprocates affection like a Golden or a poodle is a good fit.
A Golden Retriever is not a small lapdog.
This is a large animal. Having a dog that size, with long hair, and bred for high energy and retrieval, roam about inside of the house is, in my opinion, just simply WRONG, it's very, very nasty and it's downright needy and odd.
That's my opinion.
Your support and opinion of cohabitation with a dog has been duly noted..repeatedly.. thank you.
Let's move on with the kennelling thread please.
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This is a large animal. Having a dog that size, with long hair, and bred for high energy and retrieval, roam about inside of the house is, in my opinion, just simply WRONG, it's very, very nasty and it's downright needy and odd.
You know...if you truly believe this, then maybe this forum isn't the right place for you. I can guarantee that you have just called 99.9% of this community nasty, needy and odd. Not the best way to get people to help you with your issue...

And I'm sorry you think of your dog as an "80 lb problem".

I'm done here...
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I'm so glad I'm needy enough to enjoy having my dirty, active, hairy dogs resting at my feet in my nasty house. I'm glad I'm not normal enough to not know what a joy that is.

But I'm enjoying a box of brussels sprouts and some cherry Greek yogurt for dinner, so I guess I am an odd duck.
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