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Comp. obedience - Prong Collar

Thank you everyone. There is a training facility near me that also has a supply shop, so I was hoping someone would be able to help me fit one on Molly. If not, I'm going to take it to class next week to ask my trainer.

Why is it better to get a small instead of a medium?


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Thank you everyone. There is a training facility near me that also has a supply shop, so I was hoping someone would be able to help me fit one on Molly. If not, I'm going to take it to class next week to ask my trainer.

Why is it better to get a small instead of a medium?


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The small prongs don't hurt, the larger ones do.

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You can get a more precise fit and correction with the small than the medium.

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I wouldn't say the larger size hurts more than the small, it's just less effective. With the medium or large sizes, your prongs will be bigger, but they will be spaced out more. With the small, the prongs will be smaller, but closer together, providing more pressure all around.

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I do use a prong for heeling but like the others have said, the prong collar alone will do nothing to help your heeling if you don't know how to use it. I do not fix forging or lagging with a prong. I do use it to say "COME ON COME ON TRY HARDER." I want a lot of effort with heeling, the more effort the bigger reward, I have found that the prong is much more effective in producing more effort than a buckle collar. But my dog has been taught this from day one and understands it. If you slapped it on a new dog, it would probably confuse them. So bottom line, if you know someone with heeling you want and they use a prong collar to help it, talk to them and learn from them.

As far as types of collar, go with a small but buy two and link them together. Herm Sprenger is the best brand (could be mis-spelling it).

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I really like the prongs from here. This lady takes the Herm Sprenger collars and puts a side release buckle on it so it's easy to take on and off. Otherwise you have to pull apart and put back together the prongs themselves, which can be a pain

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This discussion has been eye opening for me. No one at the training center I go to uses a prong. Our heeling isn't that great yet but I think I'll pass on the prong for now. My instructor has mentioned that many people use them. She's put OTCHs on a couple of dogs and doesn't seem to think we need one.


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I use a prong collar on both of my dogs. I can't remember the last time I have had to do more that a lift of my fingers to relay my message. My dogs are happy and not the least bit stressed about it.. quite the opposite in fact because they know it is their turn to play.


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I really like the prongs from here. This lady takes the Herm Sprenger collars and puts a side release buckle on it so it's easy to take on and off. Otherwise you have to pull apart and put back together the prongs themselves, which can be a pain

Herm Sprenger prong collars with side release, quick release buckle|Leashes by Design
I have been wondering if these work well. I have a hard time with the one I have. It has a martingale type clip but I still have a hard time using it.
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While the above thread is in the hunt and field there are many responses that I personally agree with. I think it comes down to you, your furbaby and the relationship between the two of you. Read Hotelfordogs comments in that thread.
I also am with Tippy on this, you know Molly and what will or will not work for her.


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