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Smile English Cream Breeders in Florida?

Have yet to find any reputable breeders in Florida that sell English or Cream colored puppies with the full AKC registration... Anyone have any suggestions?
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Reputable breeders are not very likely to sell you a puppy on full registration. If your heart is set on the English style, you need to find your breeder now, ask him or her to mentor you, and learn all you can about the breed. Eventually, you will hopefully end up with a puppy on Limited Registration, which the breeder might be willing to lift once you have gotten clearances and participated in some dog events, even earning a basic title or two.

If you want to get involved in dog sports, and perhaps eventually breed, you need to have a lot of patience. You will need to prove yourself to the good breeders before they will entrust you with a nice puppy.

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You may have some good luck with Mid Florida Golden Retriever Club Puppy Referral:
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You may also need to expand your search beyond Florida. I see on the English Goldens website English Goldens in North America - Breeders , that there are English style breeders in North and South Carolina, as well as Virginia.

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Wait didnt you just get a puppy....???? why do you want full registration??? are you planning to go into business and breed your Dallas???

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Thanks for the advice Tahnee! Do you know of an English breeder that might be interested in an arrangement like that? & If I were looking for a breeder that could mentor me, wouldn't they need to be located in the same state? I don't know how often I would be able to travel out of state.

Shalva- We got Dallas 9 months ago and he is the reason we have fallen in love with the English style of Goldens! (By the way... my Fiance actually proposed to me by sending Dallas over with a Zales bag dangling from his mouth! No, I don't want to go into business as a breeder. From what I understand, good breeders are not very profitable and I am far too inexperienced to determine how a dog compares to the breed standard, much less deal with the inevitable amount of daily stress. Dallas does have the full AKC registration though and we are getting involved in the local GR clubs (We made plans to attend that match April 2nd!) , some UKC conformation events, and working towards some titles in field, obedience, and hunting! He is also getting his elbow, heart, and eye clearances this summer once he turns one and his prelim for hips (& again next summer when he is two!). We would consider breeding him at that point if his clearances and titles were exceptional - but again I would have to verify that with someone who had more experience in that area and let them make the final call. Since my fiance and I are doing this together, we would love to add another golden to our family and compete together! We have always had 2 dogs and I feel like we are missing that last piece of our family !
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Actually, you don't need to be in the same state as your mentor. I have a friend here in Wisconsin who mentored a woman in South Dakota We did all meet periodically at a Specialty or the National, but most of their conversation was via email and telephone.

Once you have been around clubs and shows, and have competed with your boy, as well as observed Goldens at shows, specialties and other competitive events, that will go a long way to showing a breeder that you are serious.

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Actually, you don't need to be in the same state as your mentor. I have a friend here in Wisconsin who mentored a woman in South Dakota We did all meet periodically at a Specialty or the National, but most of their conversation was via email and telephone.

Once you have been around clubs and shows, and have competed with your boy, as well as observed Goldens at shows, specialties and other competitive events, that will go a long way to showing a breeder that you are serious.
Absolutely agree! My breeder/mentor is almost 10 hours away! She has been great, but in doing showing/agility/hunt test, I have met so many more mentors! I would never settle for a dog just because it was close to me. The better breeders may not be right around the corner. My girl's breeder has not seen her since she was 8 weeks old. I send pics, but that is it. So, I am doing pretty good by myself trying to compete with her. Let's face it...I live in Mississippi and not too many reputable breeders in my area as far as goldens go. I can only name 2 in the whole state.


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Honestly the only really well known person in Florida that deals with European pedigrees is Pam Oxenberg, Toasty Goldens in Boca. She does not have a website.
She has imported semen from Europe and bred to more European-style dogs, and has been, obviously, incredibly successful in the AKC show ring.
The other breeder you might check out is Sheree Melhuish, Saffire Golden retrievers
She has done some breedings with Canadian dogs who while not the classic English type, they lean more toward that style and she has at least one stud dog who is VERY light colored (and also another that is dark....so color is not her thing necessarily).
The super English type isn't really my bag and if I were interested in competing with a golden (which I am) I wouldn't pigeonhole myself into that type from the get-go.

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Thanks for the advice Tahnee! Do you know of an English breeder that might be interested in an arrangement like that? & If I were looking for a breeder that could mentor me, wouldn't they need to be located in the same state? I don't know how often I would be able to travel out of state.

Shalva- We got Dallas 9 months ago and he is the reason we have fallen in love with the English style of Goldens! (By the way... my Fiance actually proposed to me by sending Dallas over with a Zales bag dangling from his mouth! No, I don't want to go into business as a breeder. From what I understand, good breeders are not very profitable and I am far too inexperienced to determine how a dog compares to the breed standard, much less deal with the inevitable amount of daily stress. Dallas does have the full AKC registration though and we are getting involved in the local GR clubs (We made plans to attend that match April 2nd!) , some UKC conformation events, and working towards some titles in field, obedience, and hunting! He is also getting his elbow, heart, and eye clearances this summer once he turns one and his prelim for hips (& again next summer when he is two!). We would consider breeding him at that point if his clearances and titles were exceptional - but again I would have to verify that with someone who had more experience in that area and let them make the final call. Since my fiance and I are doing this together, we would love to add another golden to our family and compete together! We have always had 2 dogs and I feel like we are missing that last piece of our family !
You have to keep in mind that some breeders that incorporate the English type into their lines will be few and far between b/c most breed to the AKC standard. Also, Dallas' mom doesn't have any clearances. You'd be hard pressed to find a breeder wanting to breed her bitch to a stud dog with a dam w/ no clearances.

Just to clarify, final elbows can not be done before 24 months, like hips.

K-9Designs post was great, I would suggest contacting the local club and those members and get to know one another.
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