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See, I just don't get this way of thinking...you trust a breeder enough to get one of their puppies, now why on earth would you not trust them enough to match you up with the puppy that they think would be best for you? Doesn't make sense to me at all. A reputable/responsible breeder will know their puppies better than anyone. JMO...
I see your point but I always go by my gut and it doesn't let me down. I am not a trusting person in that nature and there is no way i would let anyone pick a dog for me. I have had breeders put stipulations on what I can and cannot do and I respect their opinion and what they are doing but if it doesn't work for me, i look elsewhere. I do have to say I have seen alot of breeders that put in their contract that they cannot sell their pup that they bought from them but have to give the breeder first refusal or return to breeder.

What I would love to know is it seems you all have so much experience in breeding and showing, how did you get started and what did you read to be so experienced. I have never wanted to show a dog but I would love to have Kara be a dog to bring to nursing homes. And Happy Easter Beagle Day to all my new friends!
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"Super" Goldens.

Super - surpassing all or most others of its kind.


Oh. How would one possibly know that this is true, when one does notparticipate in any competitive venue in which to be judged as supassing all or most others?

How would one possibly know that this is true, when one does not do all clearances in which to be certified as genetically cleared at all, let alone supassing all or most others?


Perhaps these dogs are faster than speeding bullets, more powerful than locomotives and can leap tall buildings in a single bound?


Hahaha

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If you saw Kara run, you would think she is faster than a speeding bullet and she can catch a ball like there is no tomorrow.
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I see your point but I always go by my gut and it doesn't let me down. I am not a trusting person in that nature and there is no way i would let anyone pick a dog for me. I have had breeders put stipulations on what I can and cannot do and I respect their opinion and what they are doing but if it doesn't work for me, i look elsewhere. I do have to say I have seen alot of breeders that put in their contract that they cannot sell their pup that they bought from them but have to give the breeder first refusal or return to breeder.

What I would love to know is it seems you all have so much experience in breeding and showing, how did you get started and what did you read to be so experienced. I have never wanted to show a dog but I would love to have Kara be a dog to bring to nursing homes. And Happy Easter Beagle Day to all my new friends!
I would question any breeder who did NOT insist the dog come back to them if the owners couldn't keep them!

My goldens were picked for me, with imput of course. Part of the selection process for both was having other breeders come and check out the pups, a temperament test done by a stranger in a strange place, and a lot of notes taken by people coming to play with the puppies who are experienced.

I have been doing dog stuff for 20 years (OMG), agility, flyball, superdogs, obedience, and now ready to start breeding once the right dog comes along (not goldens). And I'm still learning, but can appreciate things like biking with Storee and watching her almost 'float' as she trots beside the bike - she may not have a ton of bone or hair, but she's sound and can move! Oh and she can run like the wind and fetch balls all day too. Plus I know she's got generations of clearances behind her.

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I just got my puppy, Zeus, from Don. I wouldn't hesitate to go to him again. My puppy is well socialized, the facility is clean and the dogs have plenty of room. He does provide clearances for hip/elbow/heart. I think his website could use some better updating, but I saw the computer that he uses (or rarely uses according to him) and it's not up to par at all. I think it's because he's spending so much time with the dogs, the computer stuff can fall by the wayside.
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I do not have a facility. The pups I,breed are raised in my kitchen. I think that that is superior to any other husbandry....

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These pups are totally well socialized. I could not have ever asked for a better behaved puppy.

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I just got my puppy, Zeus, from Don. I wouldn't hesitate to go to him again. My puppy is well socialized, the facility is clean and the dogs have plenty of room. He does provide clearances for hip/elbow/heart. I think his website could use some better updating, but I saw the computer that he uses (or rarely uses according to him) and it's not up to par at all. I think it's because he's spending so much time with the dogs, the computer stuff can fall by the wayside.
But no annual clearances on the eyes? Hopefully the hearts were cleared by a cardiologist--can't believe the number of new folks to the forum with pups with heart murmurs.
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The noun," facility" bothers me...

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I dont understand eye clearances..... They are done yearly, for a few years they could be fine and then not be fine (?) So, if I bought a puppy two years previous to the bad eye cert. I am SOL because the parent has bad eyes now.


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