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Old 05-26-2010, 08:17 AM
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Meshugga Kennels, Ringwood, NJ?

Hi, new member here. Has anyone had experience with:

MESHUGGA KENNELS
ANN WASSERMAN
341, East Skyline Lake Drive
Ringwood, NJ, 07456

They are listed on breeders.net. I searched the forums but did not find any reference to them or their Goldens. Thanks in advance for your attention.
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Old 05-26-2010, 09:30 AM
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Do the parents have all their clearances? Did you check with the OFA? There are some red flags. The sire seems to be the only one with a hips and elbows done. Weird they list two dogs with the same name different birthdates? You would have to ask about eyes and hearts. This perticular dog comes from a line without a history of clearances. There is nothing on the web about female golden. The OFA only lists the two dogs with the same name. What are their registered names so you can look them up on the K9Data.com. Again k9data only list one dog with the birthdate of 1992.....where is the current dog, where is the mother. Having an AKC registered pup is not the varification you are getting a healthy pup. I would keep looking and do the research. Here is a link to a thread on what to look for in a breeder:
http://www.goldenretrieverforum.com/...ad.php?t=22440 (A Puppy Buyer's Fact Checker)
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I would stay clear of them. The have 5 different breeds of dogs they are breeding. Also it says on the website quote "You want it, I'll find it" That tells me that they are a puppy broker too. There are much better breeders out there. Just take your time and find the right breeder.
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Bluntly, run away!

Try to choose a breeder who focuses either only on goldens, or maybe has one other breed. Mini goldens or snow white that are referred to as "rare"/"creme"goldens are red flags . . .Look for club memberships, health clearnaces of heart, eyes, hips, and elbows, and some working or show titles.

Sweetlea is near you, in NJ. http://sweetleagold.angelfire.com/

Here is a very well-informed contact in the tri-state area( Westchester), who will be able to set you on the right path to a healthy, beautiful pup:
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FYI SweetLea in NJ just had a litter of pups over the past weekend. Her dogs have all their clearances. Not sure if all the pups are spoken for yet.
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meshugga beware

I hate to be the one to do this...but after going to this womans house once I knew something was fishy and dug deeper...here is a clip from an article from 2/3/03 we did get a pup from her because we felt we needed to rescue the dog from its environment, unfortunately we are part of the problem by keeping this lady in business! We love the pup but it has many issues since it was taken from its mother too early)

RINGWOOD - A borough woman was issued 34 summonses this weekend for keeping dozens of dogs locked in cages covered with urine and feces, officials said.
Annie Wasserman, 41, of 341 Skyline Lakes Drive may face up to $1,000 in fines and six months in jail after officials found 34 dogs and puppies housed in her attached garage.
An anonymous tip to officials about numerous dogs in the house led to the discovery at 7 p.m Friday.
Charges were filed by the law enforcement division of the Passaic County Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Charges include improper shelter and unnecessary cruelty on the animals.
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Do not get a dog from Meshugga Kennels! I got my dog from them last year. I love my labrador like you'd love a child-you love them no matter what but....
Ann let me buy the dog at 6 1/2 weeks. I now know a reputable breeder won't let you take the dog till 8-10 weeks old. I think now it was clearly taken from it's mother right after birth. Never saw the mom or dad. Asked for pics of mom and never received. Have to wonder about "purebred" part. Dog never had time to learn how to behave from litter mates or mom. Chewed (and still does) everything. One year old and must be watched at all times or will destroy the house. Finally stopped biting people at one year old. Took to several obedience training classes....wildest dog there every time. Clearly never bonded with his mom. While a friendly dog, he doesn't greet me hello, avoids eye contact. I've had many dogs and never one that avoids contact like this one. Insecure, follows me around but doesn't want you hugging him. Never licks you hello. Another thing I don't think he had to time to learn since he spent no time with his mom! Clearly there was no mom dog to teach his litter mates or him to stop biting. I can't take him to the dog park, he is attacked every time so i stopped. I feel sorry for my dog and give him as much attention and love that I can and feel bad that he is uncomfortable receiving it. I like to think now that I "rescued" the dog (while paying $800). She shouldn't be allowed to treat dogs this way.
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I totally agree with the above posts but sight unseen I adopted my Caue from a gentleman who could no longer keep him. Caue is a Meshugga pup. I did cringe when I got his papers and investigated his breeder. Seeing the number of breeds they produce is a sure sign of a bad breeder.

Caue is a very mouthy dog but not a chewer. He is pretty strong willed but also very loving. I wouldn't trade him for the world but knowing how he was bred explains many of his issues.
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Honestly, I'm suspicious of anything that comes out of Ringwood. There are a lot of red flags here... as pointed out to you by other posters: no real information on parents, no verifiable clearances, multiple breeds of dogs, and an offer to find any other breed you may want. Don't walk away from this breeder.... RUN!!

This page from the GRCA has a wealth of information on finding the right breeder:
http://www.grca.org/allabout/index.html
Just check out the links on the left hand side. Also at the top of this forum, you'll find the "Puppy Buyer's Fact Checker" under the Miscellaneous tab. Tons of good stuff there. For resources in your area, generally the best place to start is with local Golden Retriever Clubs, as they offer puppy referral services. You'll still need to check out each individual breeder, but it generally gives you a good place to start.

Here's links to the puppy referral info of a few clubs that may be near you:
New York:

Autumn Valley GRC-
http://www.autumnvalley.org/puppy%20referral.htm

GRC of Central New York-
http://www.grccny.org/Breeder%20Referrals.htm

GRC of Western New York-
http://grcwny.org/ (puppy referral link on left, for some reason doesn't bring up new web address)

Hudson Valley GRC-
http://www.hvgrc.org/puppies.html

Long Island GRC-
http://www.ligrc.org/Puppy_Referral.html

Northeastern NY GRC-
http://www.nenygrclub.org/puppies.html

New Jersey

Garden State GRC-
http://www.gsgrc.org/breederref.html

Pine Barrens GRC-
http://www.njpbgrc.org/njpbgrc_website_new_007.htm

Pennsylvania:

Lenape GRC-
http://www.lenapegoldenretrieverclub.org/puppies.htm

You can look for more clubs within your preferred driving distance here:
http://www.grca.org/thegrca/member_clubs.html

I'm sure you'll also receive plenty of great referrals from members here. Good luck with your puppy hunt... and congratulations on dodging this bullet with your careful research!

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When I was looking to adopt or purchase I saw their website. Interesting that their puppies "for sale" link has not been updated. I was confused by the website to tell the truth - they are advertising a "mini golden retriever pup akc?" What is that?!

On the one hand I wanted to go get all the available dogs to rescue them, on the other hand I wanted to stay far away. I did the latter
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