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Now that our golden is older we have come to the sad conclusion that he must have been neglected and deprived at the hands of the Cynazar family. At his current age he finally has come out of his shell and is seeking human contact and has been re-trained. It is amazing how long it takes for a dog to recover from bad experiences. it is absoloutly clear to me that this breeder has no love for dogs and i suspect that the conditions on their farm in Penn. are horrific. I recall the visit to the place in N.J in a fealthy house and living room so by extrapulation I assume that the Penn. "farm" is as dirty if not dirtier. Foe all of you dog lovers, the only reason to get a dog from this breeder is simply to rescue an abused dog. Ours is swwet and amazing after 2 years of hard work!
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Lenon, I'm so glad that your dog is doing well now. I also have a dog from this breeder that I got as an 8 week old puppy and we couldn't be happpier with her, but I agree that something may be lacking in the socialization of the older puppies that they keep as potential breeders. I know that the 3rd and 4th months are very important for proper socialization with other dogs (which I'm sure that they get because they have so many) and with new people which they probably at least in your dogs case did not do enough of. It's clear that they want to keep the best puppies to continue their line but they probably have gotten too big to do that themselves. One improvement they could make is to hire HS kids to come be with the dogs for a couple of hours after school each day, or openning up their farm to visitors on weekends to come see and play with the older puppies and dogs. I saw an older dog on their website for sale, but after reading your story I'm really glad that I got a puppy.
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Hi everyone.....I haven't posted on this thread for awhile but have kept current with the comments.....I am intimately aware of Cynazar's business practices......I feel this is one way to let others know what really happens behind the scenes at Cynazar....I am lucky enough to have personally received handwritten correspondence from Cynthia as well as e-mails to me explaining the financial difficulties they are experiencing resulting in inability to keep financially solvent....it might explain why they just had 2 litters of puppies days apart from the same sire which resulted in 20-21 puppies....with only Cynthia and her daughter Jenne to care for these puppies, I can't believe they are getting any kind of significant socialization or care....these puppies are being sold to their new families before 8 weeks of age because Jenne states they have used a new neurological stimulation technique called "Bio-Sensor"....anyone heard of it?....they also group their puppies into 3 price categories: "pet" quality, "show" quality, and "pick of litter" quality with different prices for each category.....guess who decides what quality each puppy is?!!!.....I'm guessing it depends on how much money they need to make and how sales are going......Cynazar Golden owners (including myself in the past) adore their dogs and give all the credit to Cynazar....most of them have never even investigated other breeders and don't realize that if their dog came from a different breeder, they would be standing up for that breeder as
well......I have noticed a slight change in opinion of current Cynazar owners as more and more admit that the surroundings these puppies are sold in are, to put it nicely, less than clean and to put it not so nicely, downright dirty, smelly, and disgusting with puppies and older dogs urinating and "pooping" on the floors, carpet and furniture......these breeders are not interested in breeding healthy dogs....they are only in it for the money.....I'm not sure if anyone from the Cynazar group follows this thread, but it's the only way I can get info out as I know if I posted on the Cynazar facebook site, my post would be deleted as soon as Jenne saw it......I just beg the families that are considering buying these Cynazar puppies in the next few weeks to do some research and get as much information as you can about Golden breeders before making your final decision to go with Cynazar.....I know once you get there and see those precious puppies, the dirt and smells fade to the background and you just want that puppy....you can get a Golden puppy just as adorable but with proper certifications from another REPUTABLE Golden breeder......this is not my opinion of Cynazar, this is my intimate experience with this breeder.
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....these puppies are being sold to their new families before 8 weeks of age because Jenne states they have used a new neurological stimulation technique called "Bio-Sensor"....anyone heard of it?...
No not really new. It has been around for decades and was developed by the US military for their canine program. It is also know as "Super Dog". MANY, MANY breeders have used it over the years. I have used it for my litters in the past.
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Yup, I have used this method for well over a decade. It has nothing to do with when puppies can/should be released to their new homes, which IMHO is between 7-8 weeks at the earliest.
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PegBurns, thanks for posting!

My golden is also from Cynazar and while she is fortunately healthy and wonderful, I would not get another dog from them. I have been following the photos and videos of the new litters and agree with all of your comments. I was annoyed by this thread at first, defending Jenn and their goldens, but I have since realized (like many others) that they are not doing things correctly and the conditions are horrible. I don't think Jenn knows any better, but her mother sure should....

In watching the photos and videos of all of the puppies, I realize that not only do they get very little attention, but they never seem to have any contact with the mother(s). Is this normal?? I have to say that they are VERY cute though so it's easy to understand how people end up bringing these puppies home despite the environment/home they come from.

Are you on the FB page? As owners of Cynazar pups, what can we do to help them/help others looking to get a dog from Cynazar?
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Hi, I'm new to this forum, and had a very sad experience with a cynazar golden. I bought a 10 month old male. One of the most stunning dogs I have ever seen. And really sweet temperament. We fell in love with how he looked, and didn't do any research. They were not able to find his shot records, wrote a contract by hand. They also had some english puppies in a wire pen. When they put them on the floor, they sort of stumbled around. We had reservations, but felt like we'd be doing a good deed getting him out of there.
We tried for 1.5 years to rehabilitate him. I ended up with a traumatized, very expensive rescue dog. He was afraid of everything. The car, the leash, going from tile to hardwood. a new pile of snow, mailboxes, street lights etc. He never adjusted to home living. He followed me upstairs without a leash, once. I'm still heartbroken. Our day care ended up adopting him. Everyone loves him, but he really only loves other dogs. He was clearly never socialized, or introduced to the world. He was supposed to be used in their breeding program, but had some issues, so they sold him. I'm happy for anyone who has had a good experience with this breeder. It just wasn't mine.


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Hi, I'm new to this forum, and had a very sad experience with a cynazar golden. I bought a 10 month old male. One of the most stunning dogs I have ever seen. And really sweet temperament. We fell in love with how he looked, and didn't do any research. They were not able to find his shot records, wrote a contract by hand. They also had some english puppies in a wire pen. When they put them on the floor, they sort of stumbled around. We had reservations, but felt like we'd be doing a good deed getting him out of there.
We tried for 1.5 years to rehabilitate him. I ended up with a traumatized, very expensive rescue dog. He was afraid of everything. The car, the leash, going from tile to hardwood. a new pile of snow, mailboxes, street lights etc. He never adjusted to home living. He followed me upstairs without a leash, once. I'm still heartbroken. Our day care ended up adopting him. Everyone loves him, but he really only loves other dogs. He was clearly never socialized, or introduced to the world. He was supposed to be used in their breeding program, but had some issues, so they sold him. I'm happy for anyone who has had a good experience with this breeder. It just wasn't mine.


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This is a truly heartbreaking story. Thank you for taking time to share it. It makes me feel sick that these people are in business.
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It is true that many of the Cynzar's dogs are unsocialized and have no clue how interact with human. The older you get them the worse they are. In our case, it took more then a year to rehabilitate the dog ( we got him at 7 months) and he will always be somewhat damaged and anxious. We feel good that at least we rescued a dog from the abusive hands of this breeder. It is a sad situation since they keep on breeding and hopefully less people are buying from them. What will happen to all of the puppies they are breeding? I wish there was a legal way to stop them?
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Cynazar just sold 20+ puppies from 2 litters over the past 2 weeks...it appears that many of the puppies are sick....here is the latest post from a new Cynazar puppy owner........no response from Cynazar yet and of course now the new owners are paying the vet bills!!!!

Hey fellow Diamond and Diva puppy owners,

I just wanted to write a quick note for all to see: My pup Tucker, Diva pup from 11/17/12, just had his first vet apt. Monday and it turns out he has both a parasite AND giardia and is being treated for both of them. I wanted to share this with you, particularly because I was told giardia is extremely contagious and fairly difficult to eradicate, as in it will probably require a few rounds of treatment and is highly contagious to all animals AND people! So, you all may want to have it checked out ASAP! Good luck to all and feel free to contact me if I can answer any questions you may have or you just want to share!
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