Hey guys i just started my search for a golden beauty I've learnt so much about what to look for, I'm following the questionnaire on the websites.. anyway
i live in south florida and travel to jersey a lot, I'm willing to travel to get the proper pup. I'm looking for one on the darker golden side. most important is health and temperament after that i NEED A BEAUTIFUL pup! All the breeders I've been looking at have bad reviews or the dogs aren't that pretty or healthy can someone steer me in the right direction? i really want to have one by october november time and i know this is the time to start looking... also is the normal price 2500-2800? because thats what I'm getting quoted which is quite high but like i said I'm willing for the right one.. if anyone knows some reputable breeders please let me know!
Thanks! :smile2:
I think in FL you are looking at that price range- there are litters upcoming from lovely dogs in the Central FL area...have you looked at the Mid FL GRC FB page/breeder referral?
I believe Laura Topping (loralei) has a litter coming from her very dark girl, and I know Yvonne Sargent has a litter on the way (Crescent).
You should get some real gold with either litter.
OK so i found 4 places that attracted to me either because of the look of the dogs ( which i really want a beautiful dog)
and because the website looked legit so can anyone give me reviews if they know about or have had an experience with these breeders?
Of those, Goodtime is the only one I would consider. I'm not certain what the issue with Crescent was, since Prism was kind enough to provide the email address, unless all of her pups are spoken for. I assume that your desire for a beautiful dog means that you are looking for one that is correct according to the standard. Crescent will definitely give you that, plus clearances, plus a dog with a proper temperament.
The fourth one, among other things, didn't even manage to spell "Dams" correctly on their website, the second breeds doodles AND "Goldadors," and the first one sells nu vet. The dogs on those sites do not look correct. Please see prior threads for significant red flags for each.
Bounder Hill - field Goldens, appear to have clearances - They will be high energy, driven dogs that probably need a job. Don't expect them to just lie around all day.
do you think they will be high energy because of the dark red color? i don't think thats true i have 2 friends with red goldens and they're calm as can be but they live in canada and I'm not going there to get one
Color has nothing to do with energy. Field Goldens tend to be darker, but that isn't the reason for their high energy. Those breeders are selecting for high energy, high drive dogs that can "go" all day long. Conformation breeders don't necessarily need such a high drive, and prioritize correct structure. That isn't to say that a conformation bred Golden can't do field work or that a field Golden can't be successful in the breed ring, but they are being bred for different jobs. You're going to get a Golden temperament either way, but the field Goldens are going to be higher energy in almost every case. There are probably threads on this topic, if you search for them. If you want a dog that is just as content to lie around as he is to do something, you probably don't want a field dog. If, however, you want a dog that you're going to do something with, you're probably okay with a field dog. I would expect a field bred dog to be more challenging as a puppy and require more time, effort, and training. If you have a high energy dog that doesn't have an outlet, you are going to have trouble in the way of negative/nuisance/destructive behaviors.
The first question you need to ask yourself is, "what am I going to do with this dog?" Not "what color dog do I want?" There are plenty of conformation breeders that have darker dogs, if you choose to go that route.
Cyrus has some of his clearances- I don't see eyes though.
Eva has just had a litter and she has no clearances.
I didn't check the rest of the dogs she's breeding. It just depresses me. She was born 3-29-14 (I edited k9data to reflect this) and was entered in the stud books 6-15 if whoever Pam Berry is had that right- which means she was bred and the litter registered when she was 15 months old. She's plenty old enough to have clearances.
thank you lj jack your extremely helpful , i haven't been searching by color but when i see the color i get so excited, any recommendations you know off hand that are good breeders ?
familiar with these?
goldenway goldens marlboro nj
goodtime goldens bedford NY
golden retrievers atlanta lee carroll
wyoming
dichi
gemini
crescent
also wanted to add color doesn't mean its high energy it looks like you may have referenced to that in your post its just if they are field dogs than that gives them the high energy
thanks
You asked about all of those breeders in prior posts and were provided answers. The energy and color issue was addressed in two posts because *you* brought it up and asked a question about it. I'm not quite certain what else can be answered, unless you have new, specific questions.
its real sad that so many goldens i see and ask where they got them from -have bad reviews and no clearances online, i don't understand why somebody would get an unhealthy pup... horrible
I'm puzzled about the common thing between the breeders you're interested in. They run the gamut from the Golden Retrievers of Atlanta site which appears to be in the high volume group (I say this because the site mentions a yearly AKC inspecton.They do not inspect breeders with a normal number of litters a year) with no titles and no clearances- I could tell that for certain if there were any registered names (I have looked at this site before so I'm pretty sure it has been discussed in the past) but I do not recognize the breeders name and I was an AGRC member for many years so I doubt they are active in the breed. Hope they get clearances but I don't hold hope out for that-
and also on your list is Goodtimes in the NE which is a very active breeder whose dogs are lovely.
Crescent's puppies will be darker and will be easy to live with. I know the bitch and I know the sire. She's due in about 3 -4 weeks.
Try to avoid breeders whose sites do not have registered names on each dog's page. That's an easy way to not get intrigued with someone who is not making it easy for you (or us) to verify clearances. Also, on the one w the hard copies on their site. I'm sorry- but putting hard copies is absolutely no proof those clearances were done. Having them verified by OFA for a very minimal fee is the only way you can be sure they are real. And people who breed dogs have a responsibility to the dogs, their buyers, and the future of the breed. If that breeder knows enough to get hips and elbows on her boy, she knows enough to do it for the girls. And to say on her site she's selling genetically healthy puppies when she has no idea what she's selling genetically is just irresponsible and misleading to the buyer who is anxious to find a puppy and imagines people have to tell the truth on their site.
I can speak specifically to Crescent. My last dog was sired by a dog bred by Crescent. He was a rich medium golden, had excellent, correct structure and could have been titled in the breed ring. His temperament was exemplary. He was a magnificent dog, bred by responsible breeders who had clearances done on sire and dam, and who wanted to whelp puppies that were excellent representatives of their breed.
The posters on this board are trying their best to direct you to breeders like Crescent.
I would recommend Harbor Creek Goldens in Harborcreek, PA. Just beware of this--we have had three Goldens--one lived to be 12.5, the next 15.5, and our current Golden is 5 and will not live past 6 since he was diagnosed with terminal t-cell lymphoma last February. It has cost us $12,000 so far to treat him. And he came from one of FL's top breeders who is nationally renowned. And we paid over $2,000 for him. Wherever you purchase your puppy, make sure you purchase health insurance for it. The highest rated company is Healthy Paws and you can purchase on-line. About $450 a year will get you 90% payback for all non-routine vet bills. Good luck in your search and do not think that even the most expensive GR from the best of breeders will always live to a rip old age.
Do you mean Harborview? Harbor creek yields nothng on a google search. Harborview is in Erie PA.
To your point, Goldens - any Golden- can get cancer. It doesn't matter where they come from or what breeder- and it is so sad. Some lines do seem to 'carry' cancer genes, but many cases come out of the blue. No breeder intentionally creates a cancer- it sounds like you are blaming the breeder, which I'm sure is one of the many reactions one would go through when their beloved dog is ill... but in reality, environment plays a huge role as well. We just do not know yet how to breed around cancer, so other than doing due diligence and trying to avoid cancer based on the reports of others it is impossible. I encourage you to input your dog's pedigree on k9data and under honorifics (until he dies, then move it to DOD and COD) put his diagnosis. It is only through those sorts of efforts that a breeder can know there is a tendency to a cancer in a pedigree, and good breeders do look at every offspring, every sibling when they are choosing a stud dog.
Insurance is a great comfort when you are treating any condition- I'm so sorry for what you are going through.
edit: I remember who your breeder is, and looked on k9data to see if your boy is there, but do not see him. It's possible he is there but his call name is not, and since I searched by kennel name and call name that lack would make nothing come up. If you are unsure as to how to do the database, and want to PM his sire and dam names to me I would be happy to put him in. If you send his registered name and # I can get his DOB etc as well. Then I would send you the link PM and you can input what you want to say there. It really IS an important tool for breeders and is a gift he can give to the breed.
@Prism laura topping isnt having a litter anytime soon thats what she said to me in the email and crescent i didnt see darker girls but i will check again; also what do you mean when you say they don't have registered names? every website has names for their dogs... do you mean with a number underneath?
Dogs receive 2 names - a registered name and a call name. The registered name is what goes on the AKC papers, health clearances, etc. So if you know that name you can easily look up the dogs on k9data, AKC, and OFA websites. The kennel name of the breeder is usually the first word(s) in a registered name, so people know where the dog comes from. It is also typically long/a bunch of words, which is how you can distinguish it from the call name. A call name is the name you use for your dog - Brody, Gabby, Goldie, etc.
Not sure how far you are willing to travel from Jersey, but Adirondac Goldens has some darker litters and they are a well respected breeder. Adirondac Golden Retrievers
We love our red boy! I had looked into Bounder Hill and Ridley's but have heard bad things about Ridley's. And Bounder is just too far from us. Good luck!!
@Prism i just spoke to yvonne she mentioned that its your bourbon thats being bred with crew ! so nice... do you have an email address or phone number we can speak on ?
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