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Santilli's Golden Retrievers? (Rhode Island)

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I recently have been searching for a puppy, I stumbled upon Max Santilli out of West Warwick, RI. Does anyone know about this breeder? I emailed him to find out more information.


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Not knowing the name I went to OFA.
Neither parent has a record on OFA so they do not have health clearances. Here is the sire's pedigree
Pedigree: Santilli's Not Your Average Bear and the dam's
Pedigree: Santilli's Gift from Above

Basically a back yard pedigree- with no clearances on grandparents either.
I would skip it unless they are $500-700 and you can buy health insurance for the puppy for life. otherwise, you have a completely vacant pedigree and no way of knowing whether parents were correct or healthy, etc- no titles anywhere to indicate trainability or structure.
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No clearances listed on offa.org for either parent. The bitch is plenty old enough to have her clearances but the male is underage. For the price they are asking, I would expect full clearances on both parents-hips, elbows, eyes and heart. I would keep looking.

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Yikes! At $1600 that very expensive for the value offered. At that price or slightly higher (an additional $400-$900) in your area you can find great breeders with full and verifiable health certifications on the parents, certifications on the generations behind and some sort of competitive achievement that will show the dog either structurally a good representative or has trainability.

I agree with no health testing and no accomplishments to show, the appropriate pricing for the risk and unknowns should be $500-$700.

I will attach some resources below. If health is important to you, I encourage you to research and know how to check the health certifications of puppy parents on Orthopedic Foundation for Animals.
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We have been looking for a while, where can we find a good breeder in my area (Northeastern Mass)? Can you point me in the right direction with maybe someone who is around my area? I already filled out referrals and I do not like any of the breeders that I have been referred to.
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nims9 did you realize the grandparent of the momma dog died at age 3? Even if you don't understand how important clearances are I would be really concerned. There is no cause of death listed and it could have been hit by a car for all I know but too young to not notice.

I realize I'm not in your area but this is about what I paid for my girl and it's possible to trace AKC champions with full clearances back to the 1930's. You can do better.
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We have been looking for a while, where can we find a good breeder in my area (Northeastern Mass)? Can you point me in the right direction with maybe someone who is around my area? I already filled out referrals and I do not like any of the breeders that I have been referred to.
I'd be happy to refer you to some breeders in the area expecting puppies sired by my stud dogs. You can email me, sunkissedgoldens @ aol.com (remove the spaces)
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