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$3,000 for a golden puppy????

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As you all know I have been trying to find reputable breeders in DC/MD/VA/PA area and finally I have heard from a reputable breeder. She does come highly recommended on this forum. She has a litter due in Spring that has openings. However, her adoption fees are $3,000.00. The non refundable deposit is $1,000 and the rest of the payment is due at pickup.

I wanted to get your opinion on whether I should continue with her or wait to hear from other reputable breeders in hopes that they might have a puppy for a lower price.

I have been in touch with other breeders which either were missing all or some OFA certs and they were all in between $800 and $2,100". I am totally lost on what should I really pay for a healthy puppy from a reputable breeder.

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I'm not from that area, so I don't know what the average prices for Golden pups are there, but to be totally honest, that seems REALLY high. We paid $2000 for our newest pup that we just got in November from a very reputable breeder, and he has CH titled parents and grandparents. Our deposit was only $200. A deposit of $1000 seems ridiculously high. I've never heard of a breeder asking for a deposit that high before. That would be all I needed to hear to move along and continue my search elsewhere. We are in New England and anywhere between $1500 and $2000 seems to be the average for a quality Golden from a reputable breeder in this area, and these are from breeders who are active in conformation and/or obedience and agility and have titles on their dogs as well as all health clearances in order. I personally would not pay $3000 for a pup, but maybe I'm just used to the lower prices here in New England. I DEFINITELY wouldn't be willing to put down a $1000 nonrefundable deposit, but that's just my opinion. That just sounds downright greedy to me.

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I think a $1K non-refundable deposit is ridiculous--I understand about needing committed buyers, but the breeder is out nothing if the sale falls through so to walk away w/ $1K is way too much IMO. It would have to be a special pedigree to warrant $3K--are the parents titled and to what level? I know in the area, $2.5K is normal, but I also see people charging that amount because everyone else around them is doing it & the market supports and/or they had great success in the past competing w/ their dogs but current competition is limited. Have you visited in person w/ this particular breeder? Are you happy w/ the setup? Did you meet the dogs? Did you do a search of the forum to see if this particular breeder has been discussed before?


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I agree with SheetsSM - the price doesn't seem totally out there (in the DC area I know people charging 2,500 who are reputable breeders with very nice litters). But I would really struggle with the 1,000 nonrefundable deposit unless that deposit was made after the puppies are born and healthy and I know there is one for me (that was the case for my middle dog, Amos - I paid a 1,000 nonrefundable deposit when he was about 3 weeks old).

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I just saw a post on Facebook about a male puppy being available from TopHat in Ohio. This should be a very nice puppy. tophatgr@aol.com Pedigree: Scarlett/Flash


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Has someone here looked through clearances, etc for you on this litter?
I don't think the $3k is totally out there, assuming both parents have all clearances and are both titled, preferably multi-titled....but do think the $1k deposit is completely crazy. Goldens are not hard to sell and if someone were to drop off the wait list it wouldn't take weeks and weeks to find another excellent home. It WOULD take some time to catch someone up to speed, so I can see charging maybe $200 for that piece of it but $1k? No. It'd (from a breeder standpoint) possibly cause a person to not back out when they should back out and for that reason alone, I would not ever ever want one of my puppies tied to a person's decision to take home a puppy.
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I think even $2000 is too much for the average family. It's just really wrong hiking the price up so much and so rapidly. A lot of people out there are not purchasing puppies every year - and they are just going to get a huge shock 5-10 years down the road when they start looking again and realize that a golden retriever is a luxury they can't afford.

Regular, average, NORMAL people I know had a shock finding out I paid $1200 for my youngest 4 years ago. The price currently is about $400-600 more on average now. And I'm thinking that prices are going up more rapidly than they used to - among else because there is such a demand for puppies and people don't have much choice in the matter but pay what everyone is charging.

I do think that some breeds out there who are very rare - you can expect to pay more for these pups. Particularly if there's not too many dogs registered to the AKC and breeding quality, particularly if you have situations where breeders have to import most of the time or jump through extra hoops to produce litters where they may only have 1-2 pups.

There are other breeds out there like this....

Golden retrievers do not have these issues.

I understand the health expenses related to breeding...

I understand that some people charge a lot for the use of high demand studs...

I understand that some people factor the cost of clearances (minimally $400 total per dog)...

But at some point - people have got to slow it down. o_O

^^^ I probably could afford a $2000-3000 puppy.... Yes. But whatever puppy I bring home this year or next will be the last pup for a long time. I'm freaked out at the prospect of looking for a puppy ten years down the road and finding out that a nicely bred golden retriever pup who can do all the stuff I want to do would cost as much as a downpayment for a little house. About 12 years ago, my sister and her husband paid $10K as a downpayment for their house (which is a nice little house in a nice neighborhood in a "young" growing community). $3000 is almost part of the way there - who knows what they'll be charging in 2027!.


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Oh my.....I guess I'm used to Canadian prices!! That seems steep but if the breeder is able to get that for her puppies, then all the power to him/her. I agree the $1,000 deposit seems like an awful lot.


My next puppy (fingers crossed) will be $1,700 and will come from a very accomplished stud and a female with a lovely pedigree with both having all health clearances.


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A lot depends on market, but I'd be leery of any non-refundable deposit, especially on unborn pups.

Ultimately, the price is relative to your priorities. If you spent more on your dog than your car, you probably like taking the bus.
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there is such a demand for puppies and people don't have much choice in the matter but pay what everyone is charging.

There are other breeds out there like this....

Golden retrievers do not have these issues.

I understand the health expenses related to breeding...

I understand that some people charge a lot for the use of high demand studs...

I understand that some people factor the cost of clearances (minimally $400 total per dog)...

But at some point - people have got to slow it down. o_O
I think that clearances and health expenses related to breeding are the least of why puppies are so costly. Mostly in my opinion it is the cost of getting that CH. When people are breeding bitches without points/CH, then I do not get their being so much. It costs a lot to finish a bitch- more than to finish a dog all other things being equal... the bitches (imo) are generally nicer, therefore, the nice dog stands out more and finishes for less cost. Our breed has become a handler breed (if we are interested in finishing asap) and that's a HUGE amount- at least $2k a month.
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