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Old 07-18-2008, 11:38 PM
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I called no one, Shelly. I simply posted an inquiry to another list, which is geared completely towards working and showing Goldens.

It simply said:

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Anyone who can provide references for Millstone Golden Retrievers in Michigan, please reply privately.

That was it. I quickly got several replies, all from people who had dealings with Ms. Wung. A few were from people that I did not know, but who had similar information as the breeders that I do know that replied.

This is done regularly, and there is nothing untoward about it, it does not have anything to do with "connections", nor does it in any way suggest that I felt that they were treating their dogs badly.

All persons advertising dogs for sale should absolutely expect that they have opened themselves to "scrutiny", reference checking, and validation of claims.
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As requested by Ms Wung in an earlier help out....I'm only getting into this discussion to make suggestions to Ms Wung about her website, which may help in the future.

1) On the puppy page, have photos of the parents with links to their own pages.

2) If you don't want to publicize OFA prelims through OFA, then make copies of the OFA paperwork and link them on the pertinent dog's pages until you get the final clearances. Then I'd suggest having them available for public viewing on OFA and linked on each dog's page. The CHIC designation should be available too (perhaps made into a link?). It's an easy way to research the results of all tests for that dog.

3) Note any and all dog/breed clubs you're a member of...with links. (For example the GRCA or your regional GR club....or your local Kennel club).

4) When a viewer gets to each dog's page....clarify that he/she is a UKC CH....and/or is pointed in one *club* or the other. Many people wouldn't know that the CH is from the UKC versus the AKC......and it's good to let people know you're showing in both venues. So listing any and all *wins* in either club is a positive thing.

5) If you have other Goldens/any breed who are NOT being shown....have them on a "Family" page or something. I noticed you do have a page of photos of some of your dogs, but there aren't any specifics about who's who.

IF the dog has been bred....even if currently altered....showing him/her on his/her own page with all of the above info linked, and pics, is also good. (For example.....your neutered male who was the sire of a litter).

6) Questionnaire for interested puppy buyers.

These are just a few things I look for on a Breeder's page. Some have more info (like a copy of their contract), some have it set up differently than I would, but the necessary information to research and then make an educated "contact" with the breeder is there.

Most breeders want as much info as possible on the website, as that, in itself, often weeds out those who are serious from those who aren't. It's always better to have someone as a puppy buyer to be asking all of the right questions, because if they are, and you can provide the answers, honestly and openly, you'll have someone who has at the barest minimum shown you that they're thorough and they CARE about their "future" puppy. It's not an "impulse" puppy......they're planning, preparing, and researching. All which is very good for the puppies you've bred, raised and cared lovingly for.

I don't breed Goldens.....but I *might* breed Newfs. (Or maybe not....still can't decide). I will probably have a stud male...if all goes as we hope.

Anyway....on our Newfs pages on our FAMILY site (not a breeder's site), I have their OFA pages linked. I have their pedigrees linked. If I was to breed or use my young male for stud in the future, I'd have everything I mentioned to you just makes sense, to me.
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