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Looking for Golden Retriever pups in upstate New York

Hi, im new on here!! My wife and I are looking for a golden female pup in the Western NY, Central NY, and Northern NY areas. We would like to find one for under $500. We have had multiple goldens before and are very familiar with them. Our needs are not that of most peoples. We do not need all the paperwork, background, or breeding history, not even AKC. Althought if they have that in out price range is fine too! It would be nice to see the parents. We do not want one that comes with a ridiculous contract either, we dont want someone to control whether we breed or not, or one that has any strings attached to our puppy after we have bought her. All we want is a Golden Retriever puppy that is healthy and a true golden for our family, no mix. Thanks for any help!!
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Perhaps try Amish country with the puppy mills--they don't care about their pups & you won't have to be saddled with documentation like generations of health clearances throughout the pedigree cause there aren't any. Or if you're dead set against traveling, a poorly bred pup is only a click away on the internet. Good luck gambling with your pup's future. Hopefully you won't be on here in a couple of weeks/months worried about your pup's crippling hip or elbow dysplasia or life limiting heart murmur or how to deal with a blind pup and of course I'm guessing you don't care about the quality of life of the dogs that produced your pup--cause a breeder who is so careless with their pups certainly can't be putting too much time, energy or heaven forbid love into their own dogs.
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Perhaps try Amish country with the puppy mills--they don't care about their pups & you won't have to be saddled with documentation like generations of health clearances throughout the pedigree cause there aren't any. Or if you're dead set against traveling, a poorly bred pup is only a click away on the internet. Good luck gambling with your pup's future. Hopefully you won't be on here in a couple of weeks/months worried about your pup's crippling hip or elbow dysplasia or life limiting heart murmur or how to deal with a blind pup and of course I'm guessing you don't care about the quality of life of the dogs that produced your pup--cause a breeder who is so careless with their pups certainly can't be putting too much time, energy or heaven forbid love into their own dogs.
So are you implying that these puppies that are not wrapped in the gold ribbons, or have diamond bedded collars, or that eat from a Sterling Silver dish of your liking should be neglected? Or dont deserve to be sold to a good home? Come down off your high pedestal!! Just because they dont have papers doesnt mean there gonna be unhealthy!! Yes, there is a higher chance you will get one that MIGHT eventually get one of these illnesses but that can still happen with ones that have all the paperwork. I have had multiple of these "un-cared for" Golden retrievers and do not regret it on bit!! If you do not have anything helpful to add, Keep your comments to Yourself!!!
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So are you implying that these puppies that are not wrapped in the gold ribbons, or have diamond bedded collars, or that eat from a Sterling Silver dish of your liking should be neglected? Or dont deserve to be sold to a good home? Come down off your high pedestal!! Just because they dont have papers doesnt mean there gonna be unhealthy!! Yes, there is a higher chance you will get one that MIGHT eventually get one of these illnesses but that can still happen with ones that have all the paperwork. I have had multiple of these "un-cared for" Golden retrievers and do not regret it on bit!! If you do not have anything helpful to add, Keep your comments to Yourself!!!
Um you asked for opinions on a global forum--I gave you one, sorry you can't accept it.

I have 3 rescue goldens and have fostered another 40+ that have come from the type of breeder that you frequent. While you can live blissfully unaware of the lives the dogs being bred under these circumstances live (not pretty) or the unfortunate homes that the others pups wind up in due to a breeder not giving a rat's behind where they go, I can't. How's that for another opinion...and PS my dogs don't eat out of sterling silver dishes or have diamond collars as I unfortunately have to save my money to pay for my dog's health issues and still have enough to support rescue.
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I think this might be a troll thread.
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This a troll?? Because come on ..you dont need to ask where to get such a puppy. You look in the newspaper, online, craiglist. You are entering into a forum where we support reputable breeders who do things the right way and rescues who save dogs, usually from not so good breeders like the ones you are pursuing, but who do at least do medically help the dogs.
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A friendly reminder to try to keep this civil. Sometimes you catch more flies with honey than vinegar...
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You are unbelievable!! I did not ask your opinions on how i was buying, i was asking was if anyone knew of any litters in my area that were not of your peoples high standards because i know they are out there. One would think that on a Golden Retriever forum they would be willing to help with all golden retrievers, and not just the chosen ones!! You claim to be for helping the breed and what not but you deem these animals unworthy of a good home? They are not good enough for you to help put in homes?
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I will AGAIN remind all people posting in this thread to keep things civil. I will close it if it continues in this vein.
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Assuming you are not trying to ruffle people's feathers with your wording, particularly after reading any number of posts on the puppy forum regarding puppies, breeders, costs.... I think you may have an unrealistic idea of how much a purebred puppy costs.

Even supporting rescue, you should have a good idea of how expensive they can be - because of the desirability of the breed. They will sell, so everyone charges more. Even the cwappy breeders.

20+ years ago - here in MI - we purchased a poorly bred byb golden for $250. The people were initially asking for $400 for males and $500 for females. When they couldn't sell the puppies for those prices before the puppies started going through the "gangly" stage (10+ weeks), they were forced to lower the prices.

Fast forward to today, those types of breeders - who do not care who buys the puppy as long as they pay cash - charge at least $500 for puppies, but I've seen people asking between $600 and $900 for papered golden puppies.

Even rescues charge between $400 and 600 - if not more for purebred puppies. Because they can.

Anyway.
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