Thank you so much for your help. I've been finding many people/breeders who are more than willing to offer info.

British! Lol - 'English type' is a misnomer there's no such thing in the breed type.


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If you have never been to a show in your area. I would suggest you do. That way you can see what is out there in your area and if it appeals to you. I have included AKC, UKC, and CKC event calendar links. Hopefully there is something close to you.

http://www.akc.org/events/search/blo...&saved_states=

United Kennel Club: Upcoming Events

Calendar of Events

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UKC CH Wildfire's A Kind of Magic CGC
http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=474956
Rocky the old min pin who thinks he's a golden

Ok...I have two other leads.
One is for Loup Valley Goldens. Litters of Estes and Edelweiss or Estes of Joy. Both females have hip clearance of Fair. I have no plans to breed a dog, but I have seen that some breeders question breeding dogs with fair grades. Este's pedigree is not listed yet it says but he does have the other clearances.

The other is for Grindol's Goldens which I have seen questions on hear about Rayne not being current with her certs. Sandler is the dad who looks like he comes from a good line, but i'm not sure....still learning. Not sure how to read the numbers for elbows.

Lymphoma is certainly found in UK lines. Even very pale cream UK dogs look cream against snow or white paper!! Annef

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I am so tired of playing semantics

English style vs. type... I think we all know what was meant despite the wrong word being used....

In the US we refer to this "style" of dog as "English" style... the pedigrees go back to UK dogs... regardless of whether they are from Wales, Scotland, Romania, Portugal, Russia... whatever... they generally go back to UK pedigrees and share certain physical characteristics that are different from "American" style goldens which can be from Australia, Canada, Mexico etc. wherever, that generally go back to "American" dogs in the recent pedigree and share certain physical traits.... In the U.S. for better or worse they are not "British" golden retrievers... and it doesn't matter if they are from Wales, or Scotland or Ireland for that matter... there are some lovely dogs from Ireland that are still referred to as "English"

as for type - type is what makes a golden look like a golden, coat color, size, overall shape, feathering etc etc... type is apparent when you look at a golden retriever and immediately know that it is a golden retriever.

style is what separates out the physical differences that one might consider for a field golden, show golden, american golden or ENGLISH golden....

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Milbrose Retrievers and Irish Wolfhounds

Fair enough. As the saying goes, 'two countries divided by a common language' lol

Funny that nowhere else on earth seems to need to make up names for a lighter coloured GR to drive another layer of consumerism.








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I see I am alone in this though, I'm a visitor to what seems to be largely an American forum.

I shall refrain.


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I'm just looking for some sound advice. I never mentioned English/British/Scottish. I think it's kind of funny that it seems to be such a touchy subject.
Getting back to the purpose of my original post, I find that people have been wonderful with their advice...including some private messages, which I can't respond to at this time...because I need my husband's paypal account info to upgrade my membership.

Thanks for all of the helpful advice!

My apologies


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